# How syllables does the word "sire" have?

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**Created:** [June 27, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816 "2014-06-27T21:17:25Z")\
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Is it one or two?

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/2 "2014-06-27T21:21:45Z")

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One. Rhyme it with fire.

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I’m pretty sure this is regional. For me, both “sire” and “fire” rather clearly have two syllables – sai-er and fai-er. Some dialects (esp. British ones?) are clearly one syllable though.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/4 "2014-06-27T21:33:48Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> I’m pretty sure this is regional. For me, both “sire” and “fire” rather clearly have two syllables – sai-er and fai-er. Some dialects (esp. British ones?) are clearly one syllable though.

When you consider the rhyming words, it’s hard to make strong case for one syllable:  
Buyer, crier, drier, friar, fryer, hire, higher, mire, pyre, tire, wire.

Of course, in the South that’s dealt with by changing the pronunciation to “far.” 🙂

And if you’re a forest ranger you spend a fair amount of your time in a Far Tar.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/5 "2014-06-27T21:38:54Z")

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Both fire and sire have two syllables for me. Where I live (Saskatchewan), film and milk are sometimes two syllable words as well.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/6 "2014-06-27T21:42:47Z")

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When I was a little kid, first learning about syllables, I was told that words like “fire” and “sire” are correctly said to have one syllable, even though I always pronounced them as two.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/7 "2014-06-27T21:45:56Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> I’m pretty sure this is regional. For me, both “sire” and “fire” rather clearly have two syllables – sai-er and fai-er. Some dialects (esp. British ones?) are clearly one syllable though.

I’m British, and I’d have thought two.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/8 "2014-06-27T21:46:50Z")

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> One. Rhyme it with fire.

Rhyming with fire means it has TWO syllables. Only madmen and Brits pronounce /aɪ/ followed by /ɹ/ without /ə/ in between. [And don’t get me started on people who only pronounce /ɹ/ if there’s a following vowel sound.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhotic_accent) That’s simple madness and probably why Atlantis was destroyed.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/9 "2014-06-27T21:51:29Z")

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Two. Sy-er. Fr-yer. Fry-er. Cry-er. Py-er.  
Etc cetera.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/10 "2014-06-27T22:01:37Z")

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One syllable and a [diphthong](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphthong).

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/11 "2014-06-27T22:18:58Z")

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> [@chiroptera](#):
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> Py-er.

I bet you say “suh-weet” too…

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/12 "2014-06-27T22:33:44Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> When you consider the rhyming words, it’s hard to make strong case for one syllable:  
> Buyer, crier, drier, friar, fryer, hire, higher, mire, pyre, tire, wire.
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> Of course, in the South that’s dealt with by changing the pronunciation to “far.” 🙂
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> And if you’re a forest ranger you spend a fair amount of your time in a Far Tar.

It beats spending time in a [Tar Far](http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100910180115/simpsons/images/4/48/Tire_fire.png). 😃

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/13 "2014-06-27T22:36:13Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> When you consider the rhyming words, it’s hard to make strong case for one syllable:  
> Buyer, crier, drier, friar, fryer, hire, higher, mire, pyre, tire, wire.

These are not rhyming words for me. Higher has two syllables; hire has one.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/14 "2014-06-27T22:42:32Z")

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Round here it sounds more like foire or foyer

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/15 "2014-06-27T22:43:06Z")

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> [@hibernicus](#):
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> These are not rhyming words for me. Higher has two syllables; hire has one.

I guess I’m going to have to give you that one. Said side by side there’s a difference, but unless you slow the typical speech down to hear it, you would be hard pressed to hear that second syllable in higher. Too many words are that way, IMHO.

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> [@JKilez](#):
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> One syllable and a [diphthong](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphthong).

This here.

The two adjacent vowel sounds do not create an additional syllable.  
mmm

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That’s a naive statement!

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/18 "2014-06-27T23:02:15Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Rhyming with fire means it has TWO syllables. Only madmen and Brits pronounce /aɪ/ followed by /ɹ/ without /ə/ in between. [And don’t get me started on people who only pronounce /ɹ/ if there’s a following vowel sound.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhotic_accent) That’s simple madness and probably why Atlantis was destroyed.

Well I’m a Brit — although we rarely call ourselves that — and some of us pronounce ‘_Sir_’ as ‘_Sah_ !’ ( followed by clicked heels ); also I wouldn’t think many Americans would have used the word much as an honorific in the last 300 years.

Anyway, perhaps in various broad country accents — of which we had too many — some pronounced fire as fie-e-yer, but most now use the one syllable.  
For an Italian sound, you may like to listen to this short film very hard, if you can find it.

**[The Sire of Vincigliata](http://www.filmarchives-online.eu/viewDetailForm?FilmworkID=70c817c25addc8c10a194108bbf6fc27&content_tab=eng)**  
Colour no less, 1913.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/19 "2014-06-27T23:03:05Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> This here.
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> The two adjacent vowel sounds do not create an additional syllable.  
> mmm

Sure, two adjacent vowels don’t necessarily create an additional syllable, but this is the rhyme [-aɪə(ɹ)](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Rhymes:English:-a%C9%AA%C9%99(%C9%B9)). As wiktionary says

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> Since aɪə(r) can also be pronounced as one syllable rather than two, the following lists can be adjusted by one syllable for the alternate pronunciation.

So… it’s dialectal.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-syllables-does-the-word-sire-have/691816/20 "2014-06-27T23:16:41Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> Sure, two adjacent vowels don’t necessarily create an additional syllable, but this is the rhyme [-aɪə(ɹ)](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Rhymes:English:-a%C9%AA%C9%99(%C9%B9)). As wiktionary says
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> So… it’s dialectal.

I’m totally with Wiki on this one. Hire and higher are homonyms with two syllables, and rhyme with the two syllable fire and all the others on that page.

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