# How the cops tried to frame my best friend for murder. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 13, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160 "2009-01-13T22:18:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/21 "2009-01-13T22:40:32Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > I must have missed the part where they tried to frame him. They continued to try and extract a confession after there was exculpatory evidence. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/22 "2009-01-13T22:41:24Z")
Did any of the cops give you a ticket? Also, did they ever find out what gang Danny was in? What a cliff-hanger! ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/23 "2009-01-13T22:41:34Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > When did this happen? 1. ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/24 "2009-01-13T22:42:35Z")
> [@HelloNinja](#): > > Did any of the cops give you a ticket? Also, did they ever find out what gang Danny was in? What a cliff-hanger! Danny has never been in a gang. I don’t hang with folks like that. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/25 "2009-01-13T22:43:06Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > BTW, she is buried here in Forest Lawn. Anybody want to visit her grave with me? What’s her full name? ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/26 "2009-01-13T22:43:16Z")
**Stan** , your problem with this is that you come across in this tale of woe as a self agrandizing asshole with a serious chip on your shoulders in regards to the police, backed up by your other posts. IF this story is true, you have my sincere sympathies for the loss of a friend. However, you telling the cops there was no blood is not why they stopped. You were not integral to this in any way shape or form. You were a douchebag who was bordering on interfering with an ongoing investigation. They looked at your friends car. Big deal. Just because you think he’s a saint who is above a murder, doesn’t mean he is. How many times have you heard “He was a quiet man, who seemed to really love his kids/wife/pet goat” on the news after some guy has wiped out his whole family? This, combined with the fact that the suicide method here is HIGHLY unusual for a woman would give me, a non-cop, good reason to question everything. Especially since apparently the person that hit her ran, they felt it necessary to rule out his involvement. You do understand what I’m saying? ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/27 "2009-01-13T22:44:44Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > They continued to try and extract a confession after there was exculpatory evidence. That’s not framing. ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/28 "2009-01-13T22:45:21Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Oh yeah, you’re weeping so hard you are smirking and bragging. Hell of a weep you got there, sad clown. Just making a point about the utility of police in my life. Just make it a point never to mess up around me, because I WILL make sure that you regret it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/29 "2009-01-13T22:45:59Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > This story was not easy for me to tell. Reliving this has me weeping. So thanks for all the support. Real nice online community you guys have here. Go fuck yourselves. You’d probably have gotten more sympathy if you hadn’t tried to use your personal tragedy to win an internet dick-waving contest. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/30 "2009-01-13T22:46:20Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > Just making a point about the utility of police in my life. Just make it a point never to mess up around me, because I WILL make sure that you regret it. I regret just being around you. ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/31 "2009-01-13T22:46:23Z")
> [@Q.E.D](#): > > That’s not framing. It was an attempt to put a man in jail for a murder that they knew damn well he didn’t commit. Perhaps my English is poor, but that is a frame-up in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/32 "2009-01-13T22:47:05Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > Just making a point about the utility of police in my life. Just make it a point never to mess up around me, because I WILL make sure that you regret it. Oh frabulous joy. Another Internet-Tough-Guy™. :rolleyes: \<—ObRolleyes. ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/33 "2009-01-13T22:47:25Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > I regret just being around you. Well, rejoice, because you are not. I know I feel the same way. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/34 "2009-01-13T22:48:14Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > It was an attempt to put a man in jail for a murder that they knew damn well he didn’t commit. Perhaps my English is poor, but that is a frame-up in my book. They didn’t know damn well anything except that a girl was dead and they wanted to make sure that if she HAD been murdered, they didn’t make the mistake of chalking it up as a suicide just because you said so. Anyone w/ good Google-Fu find a news story on this yet? ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/35 "2009-01-13T22:51:34Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Oh frabulous joy. Another Internet-Tough-Guy™. > > :rolleyes: \<—ObRolleyes. Like I said, the story of my apprehension of the folks who were burgling my house is a story for another time, child. I am not big, I am not strong, I know no martial arts, and I have never even held a firearm. My penis is below average size. But I am smarter than any criminal or cop, and that puts them at a distinct disadvantage. I’ll take that. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/36 "2009-01-13T22:51:48Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > This story was not easy for me to tell. Reliving this has me weeping. So thanks for all the support. Real nice online community you guys have here. Go fuck yourselves. Whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, and buh-bye. Oh wait, you’re still here. ---
**Author:** ![jkusters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/fbc32d/32.png) [@jkusters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jkusters)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/37 "2009-01-13T22:52:58Z")
My condolences for your loss. However I think you’ve misunderstood a basic principle in your story. I’d say your friend was a suspect, but that’s hardly being “framed.” If he was being framed, he’d have to have been set up by the police in advance. As it was, they suspected foul play, saw your friend as the likeliest suspect and proceeded with an investigation. That’s how policework is done. If you put yourself in the police’s shoes (which I realize is a futile request), you might have seen their reasoning. It all worked out in the end, did it not? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/38 "2009-01-13T22:54:37Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > Like I said, the story of my apprehension of the folks who were burgling my house is a story for another time, child. Look Seymour, someone who posts a big long tale of self-promotion then tries to pull the sympathy card, followed by threats, isn’t in a position to call anyone ‘child’ > [@](#): > > I am not big, I am not strong, I know no martial arts, and I have never even held a firearm. My penis is below average size. > > But I am smarter than any criminal or cop, and that puts them at a distinct disadvantage. I’ll take that. Evidence is suggesting otherwise. You are not really demonstrating smarts, just overwhelming arrogance in the face of a rather called-for investigation of a woman’s death. ---
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/39 "2009-01-13T22:54:48Z")
> [@HelloNinja](#): > > They didn’t know damn well anything except that a girl was dead and they wanted to make sure that if she HAD been murdered, they didn’t make the mistake of chalking it up as a suicide just because you said so. > > Anyone w/ good Google-Fu find a news story on this yet? It didn’t make the news, although KNBC4 shot a segment, it was never aired. And there was no criminal, aside from a hit and run driver, who, IMHO was not at fault, except for running away. I might have done the same thing. For all I know, the driver had no idea that he had hit anything other than some debris in the road. She was lying down, with the INTENT of being run over. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160/40 "2009-01-13T22:55:19Z")
> [@Stan\_Shmenge](#): > > I am not big, I am not strong, I know no martial arts, and I have never even held a firearm. My penis is below average size. > > But I am smarter than any criminal or cop, and that puts them at a distinct disadvantage. I’ll take that. I find five of these six assertions entirely believable. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-cops-tried-to-frame-my-best-friend-for-murder/481160.md?page=3)