# How the fuck can anyone vote Bush? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 5, 2004, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-fuck-can-anyone-vote-bush/248766 "2004-06-05T04:14:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-fuck-can-anyone-vote-bush/248766/21 "2004-06-05T15:35:38Z")
> [@Garfield226](#): > > **NOTE** : That link is NSFW, just so’s you all know. Thanks, **Garfield226**. I just wish I’d scrolled down and read your post before I clicked on it at work (luckily I had the foresight to turn down the volume). Even better, a warning in the OP would have been _great_. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-fuck-can-anyone-vote-bush/248766/22 "2004-06-05T16:09:14Z")
Well, I know it was a rant, and a rhetorical question, and that the OP wasn’t expecting a real answer. But here’s mine. 1.) Lesser of two evils. 2.) Hoping to see ANWR open. 3.) Hoping to avoid the inevitable “people can’t possibly take care of themselves, they need the government to take care of them, therefore we will take from the rich and give to the poor etc etc” mentality of the Democrats And this even though with the republicans in power, my particular industry suffers insofar as contracts. ---
**Author:** ![WernhamHogg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a587f6/32.png) [@WernhamHogg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WernhamHogg)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-fuck-can-anyone-vote-bush/248766/23 "2004-06-05T16:29:22Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > Well, I know it was a rant, and a rhetorical question, and that the OP wasn’t expecting a real answer. But here’s mine. > > 1.) Lesser of two evils. > 2.) Hoping to see ANWR open. > 3.) Hoping to avoid the inevitable “people can’t possibly take care of themselves, they need the government to take care of them, therefore we will take from the rich and give to the poor etc etc” mentality of the Democrats > > And this even though with the republicans in power, my particular industry suffers insofar as contracts. I take issue with “3”. Few Democrats actually believe what you claim they believe… it is more that working people use THEIR government to protect themselves from the ruthless rich than they think of government as some parental entity to care FOR them. It’s better than the duplicity of claiming you want small government while continuing to grow it, and having a government that is less and less accountable to the people and less and less likely to do things FOR them rather than TO them. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-fuck-can-anyone-vote-bush/248766/24 "2004-06-05T17:02:31Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > 3.) Hoping to avoid the inevitable “people can’t possibly take care of themselves, they need the government to take care of them, therefore we will take from the rich and give to the poor etc etc” mentality of the Democrats What **skutir** said plus the fact that if this is what the Democrats have been trying to do, they have failed beyond their wildest nightmares since the reality of the situation is our society has seen an explosion in the after-tax income of the rich (increasing by 200% in real terms between 1979 and 2000) while the after-tax income of those near the median has increased only modestly (15% in real terms between 1979 and 2000) and the poor have done even worse. See [here](http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=5324&sequence=0) for the Congressional Budget Office data and [here](http://www.cbpp.org/9-23-03tax.htm) site for an analysis of that data by the liberal think-tank Center for Budget and Policy Priorities. If you think that it is perfectly healthy that our society should be structured so that all of the gains we make go to a select few…and that in fact the problem is that ithe gains have been too equitably distributed over the the period from 1979 to 2000, then George Bush is indeed your man.) As the satirical website “[BillionairesForBushOrGore.com](http://BillionairesForBushOrGore.com)” used to say, “…Because inequality isn’t increasing fast enough…” ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-fuck-can-anyone-vote-bush/248766/25 "2004-06-05T17:26:34Z")
I’m still having trouble figuring out how George Bush is responsible for the OPs school funding. Isn’t that a local decision? And didn’t Bush pump huge amounts of dollars into the Department of Education? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2004, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-fuck-can-anyone-vote-bush/248766/26 "2004-06-05T17:27:04Z")
I didn’t vote for Bush the last time, and I sure as hell won’t this time, but that doesn’t make the OPs rant any less stupid. > [@Dopef1sh](#): > > What has this man done since he has been in office? He has beaten the living fuck out of a pathetic little country at massive expense to our own and terrorist attacks are still continuing. But not, so far, in this country, which, whether this has been by accident or design, is really what most people in the US seem to be concerned about. > [@](#): > > I would bank on another one pre-November. I actually bet one of my friends 100 bucks there will be a terrorist attack in the US pre-election. It’s not like it’s fucking hard to get across the border? Can you get into Nicaragua? Because if you can, know how to drive a car several hundred miles and swim across a river (the Rio Grande) then you’re in. There has never, to my knowledge, been a major domestic terror attack that was carried out by someone who had entered the country clandestinely via Mexico. It isn’t necessary. The 9/11 hijackers apparently entered the US legally, though controlled entry points, and were here for years. So what was your point again? > [@](#): > > Anyways, the economy sucks ass. More lost jobs than any administration since the Depression. What happened to our projected hundreds of billions surplus under Clinton? Gone, now we’re in an enormous budget crisis so we can smack up a weak ass country so Bush can say he did something. > > Just talk to a college grad about the job market. Point made, but just asking here, do you really believe that every job gained or lost is the personal responsibility of the President? > [@](#): > > Environment? Hah. Right. Republicans don’t even try to pretend he cares about the environment. Our kids will know about 3 different types of animals, oh well, not like they’ll have the mental capacity to remember more since our education system is going to hell. He’s a Republican, for cryin’ out loud. It’s what they do. It’s not like he’s wildly out of line with the tenets of his party. How’d all the other Republican Presidents get elected? > [@](#): > > I’m a High School student, and I can vouch for how fucked our school is getting. I’m on a finance committee, we’re cutting teachers, sports, administrative positions, classes, you name it. I remember the good old days of getting elected in 6th grade. We were actually discussing what we wanted to spend our surplus that year on. Not how many kids said cut would fuck. Since my understanding is that the majority of educational funding takes place at the local and state level, why is this all Bush’s fault? > [@](#): > > Let’s not forget about making every country in the goddamn world that doesn’t start with “United Kingdom” hate us. Wildly overstated, as is the bulk of the OP’s rant. > [@](#): > > Nice job with gas prices asshat. Your are aware, aren’t you, that gasoline prices are not fixed by executive fiat, nor by any other branch of the government, for that matter? > [@](#): > > If the draft gets reinstated I’ll be memorizing “O Canada”…Only difference between my military record and Bush’s would be that he wouldn’t have left the country to dodge service. Your choice. I’m certainly not asking you to join the Army on my account. > [@](#): > > If you disagree with me, you’re wrong. I disagree with you. Feel free to point out any false statements I’ve made here. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-fuck-can-anyone-vote-bush/248766/27 "2004-06-06T01:48:13Z")
As stupid as this rant is, I have to admit that game is fun. Highly biased, but fun. I’m trying to decide who’s special attack I like more…Fatass He-Man’s or Voltron John Kerry’s. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2004, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-fuck-can-anyone-vote-bush/248766/28 "2004-06-06T02:06:44Z")
This isn’t a rant, just an extended set-up for more thunder, lightning and brouhaha. It isn’t like we’re exactly lacking in any of that right now. Games, even topical ones, aren’t arguments. Don’t think so. TVeblen [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-the-fuck-can-anyone-vote-bush/248766.md?page=1)