[Unrelated aside] Wow … there was a lot more activity back then. I count 50 topics bumped in a span of ~6.5 hours, while the last 50 General Questions topics bumped since the latest one today, covers a span of over 3 days!
It really gives a new perspective on that thread discussing the SDMB’s declining membership. Although, speaking personally, I actually prefer the slower pace of today, because there is no way I can keep up with that velocity of topics/activity back in 2001.
How long might someone expect to be remembered in the best case? What historical human is the most ancient one still widely remembered for their deeds? (In other words, not someone famous only for being found as a fossil.) If humans or post-humans are still around in 10,000 or 100,000 years, will our civilization still know who Einstein was?
I’m sure that it is possible to compile a list of such people (though, as Wikipedia is wont to say, it “may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness”).
The sad part is, though, that the oldest people on that list are often subject to debate on whether they were real or just myths. Imagine the conversation:
A: “Look at that! Five thousand years later, and they still remember what I did! I’m immortal!”
B: “Ummm, yes, but 90% of them think you’re just a story and never existed.”
Very much the former. I have no control (short of persuading Random House to publish it) over who reads it, if anyone.
This is a useful thread to me–some funny responses, but also some ideas that may work out, especially those from filmore, which sound like what I’m looking for.
My kids have zero interest (as I did when I was their age–now I’d kill to read my dad’s memoirs) and they might not have kids, so that’s really not an encouraging route to take. I guess this is so I can tell them where to find my memoir if they ever do show interest.
Write your memoir on some extremely durable material (like a clay tablet, but be sure to fire it) and bury it in a place where someone might reasonably be expected to unearth it in a few thousand years, but not sooner. It will be of great interest to scholars then.
In a sense we all achieve immortality even if we can’t see it. The world is a chaotic system. And every action and inaction you make has knock-on consequences. Maybe most, or even all, of those consequences are small in your lifetime. But eventually the world that had you in it will look very different to the world in which you were never born.
Meanwhile wanting to make your mark with a popular novel or whatever is just based on instincts of desiring social approval, which you’re not going to see after you’re dead anyway. It’s nice to express yourself, and achieve goals, but I don’t think this kind of immortality is a useful goal.
My guess is that immortality will be digital. Somethng of what we have written online will preserved and archived, somewhere. Maybe immortality will be when some social studies researcher a couple of centuries from now decides to do a PhD thesis on some aspect of the Internet at the beginning of the new millennium and your name pops up.
Academics really do go for some obscure things. One of the things I have translated lately has been a series of academic presentations concerning the beginning of the era of printing, and the names of various book dealers and printers get aired. Apart from some old archives listing some of their business dealings, or some personal correspondence, that is all we know about them. You would not even be able to find a gravestone for them these days.
Physical evidence disappears rapidly. When someone dies, their possessions and clothes get given away. Few people actually make something that future generations will bother to keep. The bowl that your aunt made in pottery class? Would she really ant to be remembered for that? Otherwise, your legacy is the family photos. It is something I am working on, as I have no children of my own. My stepchildren will cherish the photos, maybe their kids as well, but their grandchildren? Once people are out of living memory, they are just names, or ciphers.