# How To Apologise Effectively

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595>\
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**Created:** [October 14, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595 "2011-10-14T02:10:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/21 "2011-10-14T16:28:08Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Perhaps if you had taken more than seven seconds you could have found a cite that actually answers the point.
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> The fact is, Ed’s response was several months BEFORE the three threads I listed. The problem was not actually solved by Ed “addressing” it.
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> And I’m still not seeing the apology that you claimed.
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> Now, if you wish to say that the situation doesn’t NEED an apology, that’s fine. I won’t argue about it. But your statement that the OP was a “false implication” in effect calling the OP a liar, that’s something I object to.
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> I’m going to ask you to either prove your claim or withdraw it.

1. My post showed that the problem was being addressed and that there is an honest attempt to solve it. It has been acknowledged more than once that this is an ongoing problem, and The Powers That Be have asked for the posters cooperation in isolating which ads are the trouble makers. Nothing is being hidden or ignored, as far as i can tell.
2. Ask away, but I’m not much for jumping through hoops on demand, especially for someone who seems to be posting for recreational outrage.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/22 "2011-10-14T16:45:04Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> 1. My post showed that the problem was being addressed

Your post shows that the problem has been going on for a long time, and any attempts to address it have not worked.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/23 "2011-10-14T17:12:30Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> The OP links to another site that APOLOGISES for audio ads. And takes steps to eliminate them.
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> The implication is that the dope should do the same.

Doesn’t the linked site show lots of boobies and other delectable bits? I think the Dope should do the same.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/24 "2011-10-14T17:25:19Z")

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I don’t know if it’s _effective_, but I apologize to anybody who has read this far.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/25 "2011-10-14T18:52:57Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I don’t know if it’s _effective_, but I apologize to anybody who has read this far.

I should hope so!

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/26 "2011-10-14T19:09:36Z")

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> [@Scissorjack](#):
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> I think it rather suggests that steps 1 - 5 have been done first, _Noodles_; you don’t just get to default to “shut up and stop bothering us” and still expect the punters to stump up.

1. See post 17 in this thread
2. from your OP, some good advice: “Keep a sense of humour”.

> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Did the dope even solve the problem?

From the link in the OP:

> [@](#):
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> It’s a game of cat and mouse, and although we can supposedly put a man on the moon, we cannot always pinpoint and cut them off before they appear.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/27 "2011-10-14T19:31:44Z")

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> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#):
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> 1. See post 17 in this thread

see post #19 in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/28 "2011-10-14T19:34:53Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> see post #19 in this thread.

Your post #19 was saying that Ed’s explanation was _before_ some ads with sounds appeared, but it doesn’t seem feasible to prevent all those ads before they appear.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/29 "2011-10-14T20:04:12Z")

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That’s kind of the point.

Ed’s message predates the current problem. By several months, in fact. It therefore does not in any way answer the current problem.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/30 "2011-10-14T20:04:42Z")

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Well, they could do away with ads and go back to the way it was before the ads, when hamsters powered the servers and hungry kitties killed the power sources and knocked the dope off line once or twice a week.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/31 "2011-10-14T21:08:54Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> That’s kind of the point.
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> Ed’s message predates the current problem. By several months, in fact. It therefore does not in any way answer the current problem.

The answer to the current problem is the same as it is in the previous threads, I thought. Notify the board admins and they will try to have the ads removed.

If you mean that the answer should be “we will never have ads of this type again”, then, as was mentioned a couple of times in this thread, you can’t guarantee to stop all those ads before they happen.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/32 "2011-10-14T21:51:59Z")

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I’m sorry.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/33 "2011-10-14T23:08:48Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I’m sorry.

We know.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/34 "2011-10-15T01:00:11Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> We know.

See post # 34

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/35 "2011-10-15T01:03:27Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> See post # 34

Already discussed in post #35.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_The\_Diver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Buck\_The\_Diver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_The_Diver)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/36 "2011-10-15T01:41:35Z")

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Ad blocking software is the greatest thing since beer and and pizza. Suggestions available upon request.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/37 "2011-10-15T02:14:50Z")

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> [@Buck\_The\_Diver](#):
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> Ad blocking software is the greatest thing since beer and and pizza. Suggestions available upon request.

Suggestions for beer and pizza for the Eagles/Redskins game this weekend?

kthxbye

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/38 "2011-10-15T16:33:26Z")

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Um, often times my household’s sponges accumulate an awful amount of buildup.

- What can I do to prevent this?

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/39 "2011-10-15T16:41:48Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> Um, often times my household’s sponges accumulate an awful amount of buildup.
> 
> - What can I do to prevent this?

Apologize.

To the sponge.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2011, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-apologise-effectively/599595/40 "2011-10-16T02:14:24Z")

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I accept the OP’s apology.

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