# How to be hideous: the right wing tries to discredit the Parkland school shooting survivors
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [February 20, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209 "2018-02-20T17:07:07Z")
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/1 "2018-02-20T17:07:07Z")
The National Review’s [Ben Shapiro](https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/students-anti-gun-views/):
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> Are children innocents or are they leaders?
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> Are teenagers fully autonomous decision-makers, or are they lumps of mental clay, still being molded by unfolding brain development?
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> The Left seems to have a particularly hard time deciding these days. Take, for example, the high-school students from Parkland, Fla. They’ve now been trotted out by advocates of gun control as newfound authorities on the evils of the Second Amendment.
Apparently Shapiro’s forgotten [his own teenage years, per Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro):
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> He has written seven books, the first being 2004’s Brainwashed: How Universities Indoctrinate America’s Youth, which he started writing when he was 17 years old.[2] Also at age 17, he became the youngest nationally syndicated columnist in the country.[3][4]
Jim Hoft, aka Gateway Pundit, [who flunks grammar in the process](http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/exposed-school-shooting-surviver-turned-activist-david-hoggs-father-fbi-appears-coached-anti-trump-lines-video/):
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> **EXPOSED: School Shooting Survivor Turned Activist David Hogg’s Father in FBI, Appears To Have Been Coached On Anti-Trump Lines [VIDEO]**
The basic thrust of these two pieces is, these kids are all pawns of The Left. Nothing to see here.
I’m sure we’ll be seeing more of this, and worse.
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### Author:  [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/2 "2018-02-20T17:22:45Z")
Hardly a new low for these assholes. Still, one well deserving of a hearty, “FUUUCK YOUUUU!”
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### Author:  [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/3 "2018-02-20T17:43:13Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> The basic thrust of these two pieces is, these kids are all pawns of The Left. Nothing to see here.
I call BS on any such accusations.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/4 "2018-02-20T17:45:27Z")
Didn’t they get their Form 227/1/2c, the “thoughts and prayers” voucher?
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### Author:  [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/5 "2018-02-20T17:45:49Z")
> [@Broomstick](#):
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> I call BS on any such accusations.
All those fuckers should go straight to hell.
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/6 "2018-02-20T17:49:15Z")
Hey, it’s that or demanding that the school shooting was fake and the victims are all crisis actors.
But that’s more for the lower-class, $20k/year types. The people who know how to _couch_ their racism a bit more wouldn’t be caught associating with _that_ part of the GOP’s machine.
No, these genteel, compassionate people simply want those _ungrateful, idiotic children_ to sit down, shut up, and catch a few more goddamned bullets, hopefully from someone _competent_, who can shut them up this time.
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/7 "2018-02-20T17:55:22Z")
Of course, the reality is that we lefties were just as surprised as everyone else by the way these kids have stepped up and taken on the status quo, and how this has somehow caught fire.
They’re leading; we’re following. Nobody’s “trotting them out.”
I’m sure if there were a group of Stoneman students speaking up and saying, “sure, we got shot at, but we’re OK with it, we realize that’s part of the deal with the Second Amendment,” they’d have been on Fox News already, and Rush Limbaugh would have been extolling them.
Speaking of Rush, [he’s in this too](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rush-limbaugh-defends-nra-calls-out-students-politicizing-latest-shooting/article/2649415):
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> “This is totally political,” Limbaugh said. “The students think they are taking politics out of this. The minute they bash the NRA it is politics.”
[And:](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/02/18/immediately-after-interviewing-parkland-students-fox-news-invites-critcism-of-them/23364827/)
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> Minutes after interviewing a group of Parkland, Florida, students organizing marches in response to the mass shooting at their school, “Fox News Sunday” put conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh on the air to dismiss their plans and condemn them for trying to advance a “political agenda.”
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> “Marches aren’t going to solve it,” Limbaugh told Chris Wallace, the program’s host, after a segment featuring student survivors of last week’s shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School that claimed the lives of 17 of their classmates and school faculty members.
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/8 "2018-02-20T18:03:19Z")
**TEENS GET POLITICAL; BOOMERS SHOCKED, OUTRAGED**
In the words of the Murdoch Millionaires, BAN THIS SICK SHIT: No teen should be allowed to have or state political views! That goes double when they’re expressing the ultra-liberal idea that being shot with a rifle is bad! Where did it all go so wrong? It must be those Northern Agitators, stirring up our peaceful high schoolers with their dangerous ideas that gun policy is in the hands of politicians, and can be changed through political mechanisms.
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### Author:  [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/9 "2018-02-20T18:17:16Z")
I for one welcome our teenager overlords.
Let them fix the problems the present administration let develop in their hubris and unwillingness to relinquish their status quo. It’ll be the 60’s all over again, man.
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### Author:  [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/10 "2018-02-20T18:56:04Z")
I am unfriending anyone on Facebook who uses the term “crisis actor.”
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### Author:  [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/11 "2018-02-20T19:03:25Z")
I was wondering when they would get around to this. The right was strangely quiet for about a week, almost as if they had enough decency to feel shame. I expect by next week, Limbaugh will be calling the girls in the student groups sluts and the guys Dope fiends.
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/12 "2018-02-20T19:05:34Z")
Add [Jack Kingston](https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/20/politics/jack-kingston-parkland-victims-cnntv/index.html) to the list.
Here’s his tweet…
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> O really? “Students” are planning a nationwide rally? Not left wing gun control activists using 17yr kids in the wake of a horrible tragedy? #Soros #Resistance #Antifa #DNC
I especially like ‘#Soros’ at the end.
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### Author:  [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/13 "2018-02-20T19:14:13Z")
Starving Artist, one of the board’s dumbest and most morally repugnant posters, had made this claim right here on the SDMB. You don’t have to go far.
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/14 "2018-02-20T19:19:32Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> I especially like ‘#Soros’ at the end.
It’s like the official “either I know I’m spewing bullshit, or I’m too dumb to realize it” tag.
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### Author:  [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/15 "2018-02-20T19:19:38Z")
> [@RickJay](#):
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> Starving Artist, one of the board’s dumbest and most morally repugnant posters, had made this claim right here on the SDMB. You don’t have to go far.
Thats not fair. He’s one of the internet’s dumbest and morally repugnant posters. You shouldn’t limit it to just the Dope.
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### Author:  [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/16 "2018-02-20T19:21:18Z")
> [@RickJay](#):
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> Starving Artist, one of the board’s dumbest and most morally repugnant posters, had made this claim right here on the SDMB. You don’t have to go far.
I can’t say I’m surprised. I missed this because there’s only so much **Starving Artist** bullshit I can wade through. Your powers of endurance are impressive. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/17 "2018-02-20T19:26:18Z")
[Some of Trump’s most fervent supporters have started to attack a school shooting survivor who has made a flurry of media appearances](http://www.businessinsider.com/parkland-florida-shooting-survivor-david-hogg-fbi-2018-2)
Why this kid? His Dad is a retired FBI agent.
The kid is being attacked on Twitter and elsewhere, and even worse, Don Jr. is ‘liking’ the tweets.
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### Author:  [@pohjonen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pohjonen)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/18 "2018-02-20T19:36:01Z")
I’m anxious to see how this progresses. If the teens can persuade one another to eat Tide pods and the rest of the antics on youtube, banding together nationwide to boycott school for some sincere at-home thinking and praying ought to be a piece of cake. No dangerous public marching is even required. I keep thinking of Gandhi’s national day of prayer and fasting, during which he managed to shut down all of India. That was a little rough for the English to ignore.
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### Author:  [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/19 "2018-02-20T19:37:13Z")
Those two kids on the news are some of the most put together teens I’ve ever seen in my life and should be given as big a platform as they can handle.
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### Author:  [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/20 "2018-02-20T20:15:50Z")
> [@Rush Limbaugh](#):
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> “This is totally political,” Limbaugh said. “The students think they are taking politics out of this. The minute they bash the NRA it is politics.”
Not that Limbaugh is ever bounded by reality, but is this claim based on anything? Have the students ever claimed that this is non-political advocacy?
There seems to be a consciousness developing (and correctly, I might add) among liberals and leftists that the right positioning is, ‘Of course this is political. Politics is about making meaningful differences in people’s lives.’ Yeah, this advocacy is political. Own it!
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