# How to be hideous: the right wing tries to discredit the Parkland school shooting survivors **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 20, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209 "2018-02-20T17:07:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/181 "2018-04-10T19:36:26Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > That’s a great article, with science and facts and theories and all. But I’m gonna counter it with “Nuh uh! It was hippies!” > 😉 Oh, well, when you put it like that, of course you win the argument. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/182 "2018-04-10T19:45:29Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Crime went up around the world, and then went down, with the timing varying by country. It wasn’t the hippies; it wasn’t the counterculture; it wasn’t rock and hip hop music. It was lead in the environment, poisoning the brain development of babies: > > [Lead: America’s Real Criminal Element – Mother Jones](https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/02/lead-exposure-gasoline-crime-increase-children-health/) > > And it wasn’t just the US. In country after country, crime rates plummetted 15-20 years after leaded gasoline was banned. > > This is a double blow to some conservatives – not only were the hippies not to blame, but it was the government that fixed it. > > Other factors may have been involved, but according to this data, lead was by far the most significant factor, in the US and around the world. I’m of two minds about that hypothesis. On one hand, as the article notes, both the demographics of the baby boom and the drug explosion of the 60s have potential to explain the crime phenomena. Just looking at the baby boom alone, crime rates peaked around the same time boomers were between their teens and early 20s, then rapidly declined. On the other hand, there is no doubt that tetraethyl lead was a dangerous toxin and a plague on the environment, and its elimination is one of the great success stories of government regulation. Another was the great reduction in sulphate aerosol emissions and consequent damaging acid rain as well as cardiorespiratory risks, but lead was the overwhelming health risk, poisoning air, soil, and water. But I think we can all agree that **SA** is a fucking moron for blaming society’s ills on “hippies”, on less oppression against minorities and the plague of civil rights, and presumably also on women entering the workforce – all of which destroys the kind of wonderful society that was so well documented in 1950s TV series like _Father Knows Best_. It had some fine episodes that **SA** would surely approve of – like the one with the Mexican gardener who tries so hard to act white, causing amusement and gentle patronizing amongst the Anderson family. Or the time the daughter Betty decides she wants to be an engineer and joins a survey crew as an intern; she naturally gets made fun of by all the boys, thus learning the error of her ways, but is set right when one of the boys comes by with pretty flowers and asks her out on a date. Her mother dresses her up real pretty, and off she goes, having learned that a girl’s role is to be pretty, make her man happy, not think too much and keep her mouth shut. Ah, the good ol’ days! And not a black to be seen anywhere! **SA** probably shouldn’t watch that sort of thing, it would make him cry for the sheer poignant beauty of it all. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/183 "2018-04-10T19:47:03Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, they value life quite highly, thank you very much. Mainly theirs and those of their families. And they want the ability to protect themselves and their families from the crooks, bad guys and weirdos that liberal practices and policies have unleashed upon society. > > To wit: > > [Crime rates since 60s](http://leftcall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/US-Crime-Rates-1960-2010_4577_image001.png) > > [Murder rates since 60s](http://leftcall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/US-Crime-Rates-1960-2010_4577_image003.png) > > And before you begin to enthuse over the fact that both have gone down over recent years (as always is the rejoinder is these conversations), consider: **a) most people aren’t aware of it;** b) crime is more widespread than before so seems worse to more people; and c) doesn’t matter, never should have gone up the way it did to begin with. > > So people quite reasonably are prone not to want to cooperate with efforts by the very people whose policies, practices and activism have put them at risk to take away their most effective way of protecting themselves from that risk. > > IMO the ‘What the ever-loving hell is wrong with people???’ question rightfully should be asked of you. And that makes it not true? Wouldn’t it be better to, you know, fight ignorance? Isn’t public policy based on misperception a really bad idea? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/184 "2018-04-10T19:49:18Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Isn’t public policy based on misperception a really bad idea? LOL, where ya been? That’s how the current President got elected! ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/185 "2018-04-10T20:02:26Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Crime went up around the world, and then went down, with the timing varying by country. It wasn’t the hippies; it wasn’t the counterculture; it wasn’t rock and hip hop music. It was lead in the environment, poisoning the brain development of babies: > > [Lead: America’s Real Criminal Element – Mother Jones](https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/02/lead-exposure-gasoline-crime-increase-children-health/) > > And it wasn’t just the US. In country after country, crime rates plummetted 15-20 years after leaded gasoline was banned. > > This is a double blow to some conservatives – not only were the hippies not to blame, but it was the government that fixed it. > > Other factors may have been involved, but according to this data, lead was by far the most significant factor, in the US and around the world. I’m out and on my phone so don’t have much time, but I have to admit you may be right. Perhaps there was something about lead that affected liberal minds in particular and caused them to latch onto drugs like manna from heaven, fight to keep or get every criminal possible out of jail, foster the image of police as ‘pigs’, encourage disobedience against the establishment, encourage promiscuity and welfare resulting in millions growing up without responsible parental guidance, constantly eroded the quality of education which has hampered people’s ability to earn a living, etc., etc., etc. As far as similar patterns occurring elsewhere, it’s long been the case that other countries follow the lead of the U.S. Look at the way people all over the world dress now as opposed to the 50s and 60s. But be all this as it may and the fact that most of our crime since the sixties is tied to the things I mentioned above, the crime problem we’ve had and still have is very much the driver of gun ownership in this country. And has been established before, at approximately 20,000 guns for every murder, the proliferation of guns obviously isn’t the problem. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/186 "2018-04-10T20:10:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’m out and on my phone so don’t have much time, but I have to admit you may be right Maybe…maybe… > [@](#): > > Perhaps there was something about lead that affected liberal minds in particular Awwww, so close. LOL - no conservatives ever took drugs. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/187 "2018-04-10T20:11:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’m out and on my phone so don’t have much time, but I have to admit you may be right. Perhaps there was something about lead that affected liberal minds in particular and caused them to latch onto drugs like manna from heaven, fight to keep or get every criminal possible out of jail, foster the image of police as ‘pigs’, encourage disobedience against the establishment, encourage promiscuity and welfare resulting in millions growing up without responsible parental guidance, constantly eroded the quality of education which has hampered people’s ability to earn a living, etc., etc., etc. > > As far as similar patterns occurring elsewhere, it’s long been the case that other countries follow the lead of the U.S. Look at the way people all over the world dress now as opposed to the 50s and 60s. > > But be all this as it may and the fact that most of our crime since the sixties is tied to the things I mentioned above, the crime problem we’ve had and still have is very much the driver of gun ownership in this country. And has been established before, at approximately 20,000 guns for every murder, the proliferation of guns obviously isn’t the problem. Let me know if you have any interest in a real discussion about public policy. Lead poisoning isn’t a joke, it’s a real phenomenon. Lead in the environment really hurt a lot of people, and still is. It’s not a fake thing. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/188 "2018-04-10T20:14:44Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I’m of two minds about that hypothesis. On one hand, as the article notes, both the demographics of the baby boom and the drug explosion of the 60s have potential to explain the crime phenomena. Just looking at the baby boom alone, crime rates peaked around the same time boomers were between their teens and early 20s, then rapidly declined. > > On the other hand, there is no doubt that tetraethyl lead was a dangerous toxin and a plague on the environment, and its elimination is one of the great success stories of government regulation. Another was the great reduction in sulphate aerosol emissions and consequent damaging acid rain as well as cardiorespiratory risks, but lead was the overwhelming health risk, poisoning air, soil, and water. > > But I think we can all agree that **SA** is a fucking moron for blaming society’s ills on “hippies”, on less oppression against minorities and the plague of civil rights, and presumably also on women entering the workforce – all of which destroys the kind of wonderful society that was so well documented in 1950s TV series like _Father Knows Best_. It had some fine episodes that **SA** would surely approve of – like the one with the Mexican gardener who tries so hard to act white, causing amusement and gentle patronizing amongst the Anderson family. Or the time the daughter Betty decides she wants to be an engineer and joins a survey crew as an intern; she naturally gets made fun of by all the boys, thus learning the error of her ways, but is set right when one of the boys comes by with pretty flowers and asks her out on a date. Her mother dresses her up real pretty, and off she goes, having learned that a girl’s role is to be pretty, make her man happy, not think too much and keep her mouth shut. Ah, the good ol’ days! And not a black to be seen anywhere! **SA** probably shouldn’t watch that sort of thing, it would make him cry for the sheer poignant beauty of it all. Dishonest, lying sacks of shit like you are precisely the reason I post here the way I do. You couldn’t cite to save your life any of the claims you just made. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/189 "2018-04-10T20:17:13Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Dishonest, lying sacks of shit like you are precisely the reason I post here the way I do. You couldn’t cite to save your life any of the claims you just made. So, apparently wolfpup has total control over your posting, and you have no agency, whatsoever. Good to know. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/190 "2018-04-10T20:23:00Z")
**wolfpup** is a profoundly dishonest douchebag. While I often disagree with you and **iiandiiii** , I still believe you both to be good people at heart. You do disservice to yourselves by associating with him. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/191 "2018-04-10T20:25:00Z")
He’s probably a dirty, drug-taking, sex-having, cop-hating hippy too! ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/192 "2018-04-10T20:27:51Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > So, threatening to shove a hot poker up someone’s ass is perfectly acceptable to you? Not if everyone is standing up, it’s not possible. To demonstrate, hold a paper towel tube about yea high, grab yer red hot poker by the cool end, and try to position… Scuze me, I feel a little sick. ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/193 "2018-04-10T20:28:36Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I hardly run away. Thanks man, I needed a good laugh and that was the best laugh I had all day. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Other times my passion wanes after a couple of days and I lose interest. It’s very noticeable how your “passion” seems to wane very suddenly when you are getting your ass kicked in an argument. Honestly, I can’t really blame you. If I said all the dumb shit you did, got dogpiled, and had my ass kicked in an argument as often as you, I’d probably do the same. Still, I feel obliged to point out that you’re not fooling anyone here, except maybe yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/194 "2018-04-10T20:32:26Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’m out and on my phone so don’t have much time, but I have to admit you may be right. Perhaps there was something about lead that affected liberal minds in particular and caused them to latch onto drugs like manna from heaven, fight to keep or get every criminal possible out of jail, foster the image of police as ‘pigs’, encourage disobedience against the establishment, encourage promiscuity and welfare resulting in millions growing up without responsible parental guidance, constantly eroded the quality of education which has hampered people’s ability to earn a living, etc., etc., etc. > > As far as similar patterns occurring elsewhere, it’s long been the case that other countries follow the lead of the U.S. Look at the way people all over the world dress now as opposed to the 50s and 60s. > > But be all this as it may and the fact that most of our crime since the sixties is tied to the things I mentioned above, the crime problem we’ve had and still have is very much the driver of gun ownership in this country. And has been established before, at approximately 20,000 guns for every murder, the proliferation of guns obviously isn’t the problem. Are you satirizing as a shitbag, or are you really that fucking stupid? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/195 "2018-04-10T20:32:50Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > First of all, you seem to lack the basic understanding that what the media does is report news events. They don’t “fawn over” them. Unless you mean op-ed editorializing, which happens on both sides of the issue, since there’s no shortage of gun-friendly right-wing media. ROTFLMAO! The media hasn’t “reported news events” in decades. That would involve impartiality and the mass media tilts further left than the Tower of Pisa. They "report’ events in the way that best suits their agenda. > [@](#): > > Secondly, what on earth would prompt kids to march in support of becoming even more vulnerable targets to any disgruntled random lunatic wanting to kill them? Your example is contemptible and asinine. There is no legitimacy to pro-gun protests until and unless there’s actually something to protest about – until gun owners are actually and arbitrarily being deprived of their rights, the way these kids have been deprived of their safety and even their lives. And in the present state of gun proliferation in the US, any such real abrogation of gun rights is not within the remotest realm of possibility, nor has it happened even in nations with the strongest gun controls. > > I would hope that we don’t get op-eds in mainstream media supporting protests by gun nuts that are based on delusions of imaginary threats to their precious gun arsenals in a country that is absolutely overrun with guns, and where the smallest inconvenience to stockpiling yet more guns is regarded by unhinged gun nuts as the worst form of tyranny – and yet, there are enough wingnut NRA-friendly media around that in fact we do. You ought to be happy with that. How did you manage to twist marching (as I said) in favor of the 2nd Amendment and responsible gun ownership into " in support of becoming even more vulnerable targets to any disgruntled random lunatic wanting to kill them? " That is not what I said, nor did I even imply it. Your anti-gun bias is showing horribly. Let’s change the scenario, then. More people are killed by cars than guns. Suppose the kids had been marching to ban cars? More people are dying from drugs than by guns. Suppose they had been marching in favor of stricter enforcement of drug laws? Either of those work for you? Do you think they would be media darlings in either scenario? ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/196 "2018-04-10T21:04:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > No, they value life quite highly, thank you very much. Mainly theirs and those of their families. And they want the ability to protect themselves and their families from the crooks, bad guys and weirdos that liberal practices and policies have unleashed upon society. > > To wit: > > [Crime rates since 60s](http://leftcall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/US-Crime-Rates-1960-2010_4577_image001.png) > > [Murder rates since 60s](http://leftcall.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/US-Crime-Rates-1960-2010_4577_image003.png) I’m trying to wrap my head around the idea that you post data that shows that the rates of crime, both violent and property crimes, and murders specifically, are the same as the were in those glorious days when the 1950s ended, and you think that somehow justifies how so many people feel they need to cling to their guns. WTF? > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > As far as similar patterns occurring elsewhere, it’s long been the case that other countries follow the lead of the U.S. Look at the way people all over the world dress now as opposed to the 50s and 60s. Again, WTF?!? You think the US is leading the world in terms of liberal social reforms? We’re very gradually trying to catch up. At least we _were_, until about January 20 2017. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/197 "2018-04-10T21:15:45Z")
Look folks, you’re wasting your time arguing with SA. He’s a crazy old racist who believes the Perfect World existed in 1950’s America. When black people and other minorities knew their place, when men were strictly heterosexual and people like him were the be-all, end-all of society. The most karmic possible afterlife for him would be as a mentally handicapped black man in the 1950’s. Over and over and over. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/198 "2018-04-10T21:27:59Z")
Kindly cite that **Sa** is a racist. Betcha can’t! ‘Cause he ain’t. Not even close. I mean, I can understand your desperation to excuse the many ridiculous outcomes of liberal attempts at social engineering, but labeling those who point them out as racist only highlights what little justification you legitimately have. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/199 "2018-04-10T21:39:39Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Kindly cite that **Sa** is a racist. [How about this one?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?do=finduser) ---
**Author:** ![Crazy\_Canuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazy_canuck/32/5282_2.png) [@Crazy\_Canuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazy_Canuck)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/200 "2018-04-10T21:41:32Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Kindly cite that **Sa** is a racist. Why? It’s a waste of time. In your very own words … > [@Larry Krasner: What justice looks like](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/larry-krasner-what-justice-looks-like/811613/70): > > I don’t entertain specious cite requests. So why should anyone else bother? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209.md?page=11)