# How to be hideous: the right wing tries to discredit the Parkland school shooting survivors
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [February 20, 2018, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209 "2018-02-20T17:07:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/21 "2018-02-20T20:40:06Z")
As an old fart, I couldn’t be more proud of kids today. To them I say: take the world for your own, and make it better.
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### Author:  [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/22 "2018-02-20T20:43:38Z")
> [@pohjonen](#):
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> I’m anxious to see how this progresses. If the teens can persuade one another to eat Tide pods and the rest of the antics on youtube, banding together nationwide to boycott school for some sincere at-home thinking and praying ought to be a piece of cake. No dangerous public marching is even required. I keep thinking of Gandhi’s national day of prayer and fasting, during which he managed to shut down all of India. That was a little rough for the English to ignore.
Many schools were closed yesterday for President’s Day, and the Tide Pods thing is mostly an urban legend.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/23 "2018-02-20T21:54:24Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> the Tide Pods thing is mostly an urban legend.
[It was mostly an urban legend three years ago but not now.](https://www.snopes.com/tide-pod-challenge/)
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### Author:  [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/24 "2018-02-20T23:00:31Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#):
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> As an old fart, I couldn’t be more proud of kids today. To them I say: take the world for your own, and make it better.
Here, here. They can hardly do a worse job than we did with it.
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### Author:  [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/25 "2018-02-20T23:02:06Z")
> [@Max\_Torque](#):
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> As an old fart, I couldn’t be more proud of kids today. To them I say: take the world for your own, and make it better.
Yeah, well, all we had was sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll. If Nintendo had come out in '66, we’d still be in Viet Nam.
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### Author:  [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/26 "2018-02-20T23:11:02Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> Not that Limbaugh is ever bounded by reality, but is this claim based on anything? Have the students ever claimed that this is non-political advocacy?
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> There seems to be a consciousness developing (and correctly, I might add) among liberals and leftists that the right positioning is, ‘Of course this is political. Politics is about making meaningful differences in people’s lives.’ Yeah, this advocacy is political. Own it!
Those kids shouldn’t just own it, they should be damn proud of it.
And Rush Limbaugh can drop dead. The sooner, the better.
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/27 "2018-02-20T23:16:19Z")
Rush Limbo. How low can he go?
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### Author:  [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/28 "2018-02-20T23:21:00Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> The basic thrust of these two pieces is, these kids are all pawns of The Left. Nothing to see here.
Why does that surprise you? These guys really _do_ try to brainwash their kids with things like homeschooling and Bible Camps, and teach them that they’re in training to be warriors for God and similar sorts of rot. So why wouldn’t they believe that the other side does the same thing?
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### Author:  [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)
#### Post date: [February 20, 2018, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/29 "2018-02-20T23:25:59Z")
> [@RickJay](#):
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> Starving Artist, one of the board’s dumbest and most morally repugnant posters, had made this claim right here on the SDMB. You don’t have to go far.
No, but if we wish hard enough, maybe he will.
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### Author:  [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/30 "2018-02-21T00:00:05Z")
> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Those kids shouldn’t just own it, they should be damn proud of it.
That’s pretty much what ‘own it’ means.
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### Author:  [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/31 "2018-02-21T00:49:45Z")
> [@Horatius](#):
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> Why does that surprise you? These guys really _do_ try to brainwash their kids with things like homeschooling and Bible Camps, and teach them that they’re in training to be warriors for God and similar sorts of rot. So why wouldn’t they believe that the other side does the same thing?
“Projection” is the explanation for 89% of right-wing talking points.\*
It’s otherwise difficult to understand that they simply cannot conceive of the idea that a teen, lying on the floor watching classmates die, _ **might actually think for him or herself: ‘this is bad.’** _
No, the only thing the right-winger can imagine is that George Soros swept into Parkland and performed brainwashing there and then, resulting in teens who robotically and on cue, state for the cameras: ‘this is bad.’
\*that’s an OOMA figure.
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/32 "2018-02-21T00:57:26Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> Not that Limbaugh is ever bounded by reality, but is this claim based on anything?
It’s based on the same old shit he’s been pulling since the 1980s, when he demonized the word “liberal”: Make a word a snarl term, out of your snarl when you say it, and then apply it to your enemies.
“Liberal” didn’t used to be a dirty word. Back before the wheels came off, we had what was called the “Liberal Consensus”, the broad, bipartisan notion of how things ought to be in the post-WWII world. In the 1950s, the USA was an unabashedly Liberal nation. Then the word got demonized, turned into a snarl term, by Limbaugh and people like him.
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> Have the students ever claimed that this is non-political advocacy?
Unnecessary. All Limbaugh has to do is make a big deal out of it being political, and then the dittoheads all agree that high schoolers being political is a bad thing.
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### Author:  [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/33 "2018-02-21T02:38:11Z")
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> That’s pretty much what ‘own it’ means.
Yes. I meant it in a more "“in your face” type of way.
“Angry gets shit done” - Anansi, American Gods
The time for patience is over. The time to wait for the politicians (who are bought and paid for) is over. Time to clean house. Time to also get rid of the cowards who are just NOW severing their ties (or just pretending to) for purely poltical reasons.
And those “lawmakers” who say “thoughts and prayers” can quit their job of doing nothing and go to church instead.
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### Author:  [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/34 "2018-02-21T02:39:14Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Rush Limbo. How low can he go?
All the way down to hell. The sooner the better.
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### Author:  [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/35 "2018-02-21T03:40:52Z")
Dinesh D’Felon (one of the few people whom I eagerly await reading about their painful and prolonged death via wild hogs) is [on it, too.](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/right-wing-pundit-dinesh-dsouza-taunts-survivors-of-parkland-shooting-for-losing-florida-weapons-ban-vote.html)
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### Author:  [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/36 "2018-02-21T04:07:57Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#):
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> Add [Jack Kingston](https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/20/politics/jack-kingston-parkland-victims-cnntv/index.html) to the list.
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> Here’s his tweet…
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> I especially like ‘#Soros’ at the end.
What a maroon. My kid came to me to ask permission to participate in an upcoming school walkout that is being planned by the students. Nobody is “trotting him out.” He and his classmates have just had it.
FWIW, I told him yes, on the condition that they actually DO something with the time other than just wander around. He looked at me like I was nuts and told me they were planning to march from the school to our congressman’s office, which happens to be less than a mile from the school.
These kids are serious.
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### Author:  [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/37 "2018-02-21T04:52:58Z")
I don’t know that anyone really does believe the kids are being manipulated, or even just up for an extra day off school. It feels to me like it’s admitted bullshit, a sideways sort of facetiousness.
During the campaign, one of the Trump supporters was called for his use of “jew” - I can’t remember the context - and he replied that he was mispronouncing “you” so Hispanics would feel included. That kind of obvious insincerity.
> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> That’s pretty much what ‘own it’ means.
To be fair, sometimes it means, “own up to it”.
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### Author:  [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/38 "2018-02-21T04:54:34Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> No, but if we wish hard enough, maybe he will.
Some yoyo said his name three times, and now we’re stuck with him forever.
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### Author:  [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/39 "2018-02-21T05:27:05Z")
I did see two of the students interviewed on the Opposition, and I was very impressed.
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### Author:  [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)
#### Post date: [February 21, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/40 "2018-02-21T05:33:28Z")
These teenaged kids have grown up in a world of ‘forever war’ and have seen (or been the targets of) the majority of mass shootings in the last 75 years.
They will be a different political force. Woe to any politician who discounts them, first in 2018 then in 2020…
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