# How to be hideous: the right wing tries to discredit the Parkland school shooting survivors

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-be-hideous-the-right-wing-tries-to-discredit-the-parkland-school-shooting-survivors/809209/295 "2018-04-12T17:36:19Z")

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The search for Starving Artist’s first GD post continues. This is the earliest one I can find so far with the caveat that at the time he posted, the thread was not actually in Great Debates, but was moved there shortly afterward by then-moderator Czarcasm (post 25):

> [@How will Bill Clinton rescue his reputation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-bill-clinton-rescue-his-reputation/249074/8):
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> Clinton has a lot more to overcome than a blowjob. He was a known and proven philanderer long before Lewinsky and was even caught on tape advising one of his paramours to deny they had an affair. He told her plain and clear that no one but he and she knew it for certain, and if he didn’t admit it and she didn’t admit it, no one could prove anything.
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> I think this is a very good illustration of his overall character. Like many lawyers, he and Hilary both seem to hold to the philosophy that if there’s any loophole that will allow shenanegans they should be exploited. If something isn’t specifically prohibited by law then by all means take advantage of it. And if you’re doing something illegal or immoral and someone tries to catch you at it, lie, obfuscate, misdirect, anything to try to weasel out of it. And most of all, deny, deny, deny, even to the point of ridiculousness: “I didn’t lie! She had sex with me, I didn’t have sex with her!” Can you imagine anyone else, even though he/she may be a lawyer, splitting hairs in this way in a legal proceeding and being allowed to get away with it? But of course he was, because after all he was the president.
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> This type of behavior, plus his spending his last night in office pardoning one criminal after another, including one on the FBI’s 10 most wanted list, speaks much more eloquently to the character of the man than anything else. His thinking was to wait till it’s too late for anyone to do anything about it, and until it’s too late to do his presidency any harm, and then he pulls this cheap shenanegan that I can’t imagine any other president in history doing, because he has to repay political and/or financial favors and there’s no law prohibiting him from doing it.
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> What a cheap, sleazy, underhanded creep.

Okay, that seems like a not-wholly-unreasonable expression of dislike for Bill Clinton (though it makes him sound almost saintly compared to the current presidential trainwreck-in-progress). There’s no indication here I can see that Starving Artist feels compelled to lash out at the liberals on this board. Maybe if later in the thread, someone expressed support for Clinton, and it was this that set him on his current Fury Road.

Wait a sec…

> [@How will Bill Clinton rescue his reputation?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-bill-clinton-rescue-his-reputation/249074/41):
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> Meh. A hastily-passed constitutional amendment and a shakeup at the Democractic Convention and good ol’ Bill would easily be the Dem nominee in 2004.
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> He’d probably win, too. His reputation is that he’s a horndog, but it turned out that being a horndog does not disqualify you from being an effective and popular president.
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> Some future descendent of Robert Graves will write “I, Clinton” and Bill will be portrayed as a well-meaning but flawed caretaker leader surrounded by people of varying degrees of nastiness.

My God… _I_ created the monster that is Artistic and Starving! My casual tolerance for Clinton’s foibles drove him over the edge, turned him into the twisted freak we suffer today!

Does the OP of this thread want to know how the right wing became hideous?! It’s careless people like me who _make_ them hideous! [runs away, sobbing and weeping]

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