Because there is absolutely no evidence of it, and it is propagated by people who have a track record of telling lies and conspiracy theories.
They probably would be reported by the main stream media in more or less the same way. I don’t see why it would be different. Sure, there are some editorials and opinion writers that you could say “fawn over them”, but the majority of the coverage is just that, coverage of newsworthy events. The media doesn’t make them “heroes”, though they are heroes to some people who are looking to reduce gun violence.
In your hypothetical world where the students from a school that experienced a horrific gun shooting go out and advocate for more guns in public to get into the hands of disturbed people, then there would have been quite a bit of coverage of that as well, and opinion writers for Fox and the NRA would be fawning over them and calling them heroes.
First of all, you seem to lack the basic understanding that what the media does is report news events. They don’t “fawn over” them. Unless you mean op-ed editorializing, which happens on both sides of the issue, since there’s no shortage of gun-friendly right-wing media.
Secondly, what on earth would prompt kids to march in support of becoming even more vulnerable targets to any disgruntled random lunatic wanting to kill them? Your example is contemptible and asinine. There is no legitimacy to pro-gun protests until and unless there’s actually something to protest about – until gun owners are actually and arbitrarily being deprived of their rights, the way these kids have been deprived of their safety and even their lives. And in the present state of gun proliferation in the US, any such real abrogation of gun rights is not within the remotest realm of possibility, nor has it happened even in nations with the strongest gun controls.
I would hope that we don’t get op-eds in mainstream media supporting protests by gun nuts that are based on delusions of imaginary threats to their precious gun arsenals in a country that is absolutely overrun with guns, and where the smallest inconvenience to stockpiling yet more guns is regarded by unhinged gun nuts as the worst form of tyranny – and yet, there are enough wingnut NRA-friendly media around that in fact we do. You ought to be happy with that.
A brief check suggests that the kind of numbers being looked at here are somewhere in the 200,000+ range, with quite a big range.
You believe that a political march, with hundreds of thousands of members, directly connected to a huge and emotive news story, which seems to have at least temporarily been the focus of national and in some cases international attention, would not have been reported on?
That draft dodging shit stain is at it again. ted Nugent is once again calling for “people” to start shooting liberals, Democrats, anybody who may have hurt his poor litttle snowflake fee fees.
This is the kind of lousy coward asshole we are told to be nice to… to understand … to have empathy for, to respect.
I hardly run away. In the first place, I sometimes have to leave the board because stuff comes up. Occasionally I post that I’m having to leave just to forestall idiotic accusations that I’m ‘running away’. And people complain when I do. Then when I don’t, sure enough they accuse me of running away. :rolleyes: Other times my passion wanes after a couple of days and I lose interest. Other times, the alleged ‘refutations’ become so voluminous and full of mischaracterizations of what I’ve said, cites that don’t take enough germane details into account, etc., etc., that in combination with having lost interest and moving on I simply cease posting unless and until something should move me to start back up again. So far this is the extent of that in this thread.
It’s fascinating, if not horrifying, to see the reaction among conservatives. Usually in this country, it’s “Oh my! Think of the children!” For conservatives it’s “Oh my! Think of the guns!”
In red state America, guns have more rights than children do, especially if the children are black, female, and gay.
No, they value life quite highly, thank you very much. Mainly theirs and those of their families. And they want the ability to protect themselves and their families from the crooks, bad guys and weirdos that liberal practices and policies have unleashed upon society.
And before you begin to enthuse over the fact that both have gone down over recent years (as always is the rejoinder is these conversations), consider: a) most people aren’t aware of it; b) crime is more widespread than before so seems worse to more people; and c) doesn’t matter, never should have gone up the way it did to begin with.
So people quite reasonably are prone not to want to cooperate with efforts by the very people whose policies, practices and activism have put them at risk to take away their most effective way of protecting themselves from that risk.
IMO the ‘What the ever-loving hell is wrong with people???’ question rightfully should be asked of you.
When I go on TV and say that I’m going to sexually assault a teenage gun-lover with a hot poker, then you may ask me that question.
Until then, how can you possible say anything about this guy other than “Yeah, that’s way overboard and downright sickening”? You only mention guns guns guns and how unsafe you feel AGAIN. Jeez. What’s wrong with you?
Consider: a)My client did not rent this car, b)This car was already damaged when my client took possession, and c)This car was in perfect condition when my client returned it.
Crime went up around the world, and then went down, with the timing varying by country. It wasn’t the hippies; it wasn’t the counterculture; it wasn’t rock and hip hop music. It was lead in the environment, poisoning the brain development of babies:
And it wasn’t just the US. In country after country, crime rates plummetted 15-20 years after leaded gasoline was banned.
This is a double blow to some conservatives – not only were the hippies not to blame, but it was the government that fixed it.
Other factors may have been involved, but according to this data, lead was by far the most significant factor, in the US and around the world.
