I don’t see any discussion of your qualifications in that post.
choie
As a detailed example of one approach to including an acknowledged use of published lyrics,
I have a copy of the Bachman Books by Stephen King, specifically the Signet edition.
On the copyright page it contains the following:
My copy of Starship Troopers acknowledges a verse of Kipling and some song lyrics on a separate acknowledgments page, which includes the source of permission (Mr. Kipling’s estate and the song’s writer respectively).
One might suggest an acknowledge such as:
can go either on the standard copyright page or if you have other people to thank or acknowledge, wherever you thank/note them.
-DF
Actually, there are agencies that research copyright and licensing clearances. Two of them:
US: Copyright Clearance Center
UK: CLA
Nor have I seen any contrary evidence by you that I am wrong, qualified in your eyes or not.
Maybe we are at a stalemate, I will let my advice stand. Feel free to show it wrong if you want. Oh wait, I see the most recent post now shows a link to clearance organizations, and IIRC, I said hire someone qualified to check if you feel your risk/exposure requires it. Hmm funny thing that.
How many times? For Christ’s sake, how many times? Choie has already established that “Love’s Old Sweet Song” is PD. He doesn’t need an organization that researches rights holders and facilitates licensing.
Does that contradict with what I said?
If Choie is comfortable with the risk, the s/he should do whatever s/he is comfortable doing. Neither I nor anyone else has ever suggested otherwise.
In the general case, or even if you change the author, the song, the likelihood of the novel making money, the answer might be different.
AH, thank you Dancer Flight, for that example! Excellent and very helpful, I truly appreciate that. Funnily enough, when I was trying to think of an example of song credits in a novel, my first thoughts did indeed go to Stephen King! I was gonna look for my copy of The Stand (since I’m pretty sure he credits “Don’t Fear the Reaper” in there, doesn’t he?), but I remembered I lent it out, so I gave up. And yet here’s my copy of The Bachman Books lying unnoticed on my bookcase. Many thanks for going to the trouble.
not_alice, again you state I’m taking a risk, which is again implying that the song may not be in public domain. It sodding well IS in the public domain. The lyrics of the song I’m using were written – and both its authors died – decades before 1922, for God’s sake. There’s no freakin’ risk. And if you’re wondering why I think the thread is about ‘me me me’, it’s because the thread is about me. My question. My situation.
Now, I don’t mind that it’s drifted (and tough noogies if I did, natch, since I don’t own it!); that’s par for the course, and one of the most enjoyable aspects of discussion boards. But as the thread’s raison d’etre was a specific question about a specific song that I have already confirmed is public domain, the comments about how to figure out if a song is in the public domain that you addressed to me were unhelpful, confusing, and irrelevant. And now, with your last comment (“the likelihod of the novel making money”), downright insulting.
Of course, the more general info could indeed be of use to someone, hypothetically, but the determination of whether a song is in PD is not the subject of the thread, so I think it’s off-topic and I really wish you’d back the heck off.
And BTW, Exapno Mapcase is right. You asked him/her for his credentials in the publishing field, he did the same to you; he replied with his creds, you didn’t. He wins. 
Thanks to Biffy the Elephant Shrew and Walloon (who is certainly correct about the various means to determine the copyright ownership of material), and everyone else who participated. Kindly think of me not as a negligent daredevil about to be dragged to court by the non-existent copyright holders of a song written nearly four decades before the all-important year of 1922.
I am not implying you are taking a risk, I am outright stating it.
All economic transactions involve risk.
You need to manage the risk as you see fit. That you are comfortable with your management does not make the risk go away, it only means you are comfortable with it.
Which is precisely what I have been saying from the beginning, and agreeing with you about since the beginning of this thread. Why do YOU keep arguing against yourself?
Yawn. How about being a little bit less invested in what I say as being an insult, and scrolling back and noting that you said the novel won’t be making money yourself way back when.
If you don’t like what I suggest for this case, then simply ignore it, and tuck it away for next time when you have a lyric or photo from 1924 or 1928 that you want to use, OK?
but
Making much sense but being consistent, or is it personal with you?
OK he said he “worked in the film industry” - if that is satisfactory from him, then “I work in the film industry” also. Ialso have worked in the “print publishing industry”, the “online content industry”, and if it helps when I was a teen I worked in the “hamburger industry”. Except for the last one, all of that has been done in a world-wide context, often working to bridge the local laws and cultures in order to provide goods and services across borders.
Note he still did not contradict anything specific I have said.
No one said you are a daredevil. What people have said, is if you are comfortable with your strategy, and willing to live with the results, then that is all anyone can ask. In the end, it is all you CAN do, regardless of the particulars.
Locking this thread at the request of the OP. And not_alice, I’m going to politely suggest you evaluate your posting style. It seems like most of the threads you participate in end with a contentious hijack.
Closed at the request of the OP.