# How to decide which instances of opposition to gay marriage are hateful and bigoted.

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [August 6, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653 "2012-08-06T20:14:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653/801 "2012-09-11T00:25:49Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> If they let the bivalves have the word “clam”, soon seafood lovers everywhere, especially poor defenseless helpless idiotic children, will be confused into thinking being bi is normal. Hence the traditional usage of “clam” must be preserved.

And now it becomes clear why both shellfish and gay sex are proscribed in Torah. (Involvement of multiple cockles should have been a clue.) 😃

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653/802 "2012-09-11T00:40:06Z")

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It all makes sense now. Tattooed gay shellfish wearing mixed fibers would be like the trifecta of abominations.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653/803 "2012-09-11T00:51:39Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> . . . Anyway, I note magellan cannot (or at least has not) offered up any other words that have needed dictionary-defense. As always, his is a general argument that applies to exactly one specific instance.
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> One! ONE specific instance!

Well, that’s lame…

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653/804 "2012-09-11T03:06:44Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> The controversy around Cathy erupted precisely because he was donating very large amounts of money to translate his beliefs into policy.

Really? Then why is this the first time I’ve heard about his donations? None of the complaints I’ve heard or read were about his donations - they were about his words.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653/805 "2012-09-11T03:12:12Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Really? Then why is this the first time I’ve heard about his donations?

Because you’re not very attentive?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653/806 "2012-09-11T03:37:39Z")

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Cathy’s words were spoken in response to a question about his company’s donations. I admit I wasn’t personally familiar with Chick-Fil-A’s practices until recently, but plenty of other people were.

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**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653/807 "2012-09-11T10:22:49Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> You’re not allowed to insult people this way in Great Debates. I’m giving you a warning for this one; don’t do it again.

Can you help me to understand this warning please? ATMB thread here [Why is this insulting? Warning in Great Debates - About This Message Board - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=665136)

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653/808 "2012-09-11T14:29:26Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> You’re not allowed to insult people this way in Great Debates. I’m giving you a warning for this one; don’t do it again.

**magellan01** I apologise for the insult which wasn’t intended as an insult though I can see, after discussion in ATMB, it is most likely to be interpreted as one. Apologies also to the board for lowering the tone in GD.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653/809 "2012-09-11T16:31:08Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> I am _for_ equality for homosexuals. As some already know, I fully support extending them every right and privilege one can imagine—except the use of the word “marriage”. I am not _against_ gay people. …
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> Unfortunately, as it turns out, a good part of the gay community is less interested in the legal rights and privileges they’ve been pining for than trying to alter society in a way that makes them feel good. We’ve moved from cries for toleration to acceptance and, now, to “you must embrace us”.

Man, it’s just like back in the 50s when I demonstrated my support for equality by demanding that the ‘colored’ water fountains be upgraded until they were just as nice as the ‘white’ ones. Yet those Negroes insisted that wasn’t enough and claimed _I_ was somehow bigotted. Such madness!

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-decide-which-instances-of-opposition-to-gay-marriage-are-hateful-and-bigoted/630653/810 "2012-09-11T17:58:44Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> It all makes sense now. Tattooed gay shellfish wearing mixed fibers would be like the trifecta of abominations.

[A BBC reenactment of **magellan** ’s concerns.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDIeM2giy60&playnext=1&list=PLDAD21025588E5E79&feature=results_main)

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