# How to dissuade a newbie Trump supporter?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 14, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-dissuade-a-newbie-trump-supporter/737551 "2015-11-14T13:30:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-dissuade-a-newbie-trump-supporter/737551/46 "2015-11-15T11:57:17Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> …if someone touts their business success as an asset, it’s fair to bring up their failures.

Certainly. I never said otherwise.

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> …I expect someone to be equally realistic about their successes and failures. It’s not fair to say “my success is a unique result of my brilliance, 1 in 300 million; my failure was part of a downturn, coulda happened to anybody.” What were these mistakes that Trump has been so frank in admitting?

IIRC, he said that part of the problem was that he made some bad decisions. (I trust you’re not going try to use his candor to suggest that anyone elected president should be someone who’s never made any bad decisions. Because, you know, that would be both unrealistic and silly.)

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> …Trump wouldn’t be risking just his fortune as president, he’d be risking all of ours. Two fortunes and one bust? I don’t like those odds. I’ll take slow, sustained growth for the economy, thanks.

Well, then, you should like Trump. His history is roughly fifty years of sustained growth with a two year blip in the middle, from which he recovered magnificently.

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> …running a country is not the same as running a business. Being good at one doesn’t mean you’ll be any good at the other.

And it doesn’t mean you won’t be either. I’ll take Trump’s savvy and experience and negotiating talent and proven ability to get complex and difficult things done over an empty sack like Obama or a whatever-she-is-who-can-say candidate like Hillary Clinton any day.

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