# how to ferment peppers (starter culture)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 23, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300 "2011-09-23T04:11:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300/1 "2011-09-23T04:11:50Z")

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I’ve got some hot peppers I’d like to ferment into a hot sauce. I’ve found several sites that say essentially:

1. grind peppers,
2. add a bit of salt
3. let sit

I’m not comfortable just letting natural air microbes at my pepper slurry, and am considering trying to add the correct bacteria/yeast, just so I can control it.

I’m think of adding a bit of active culture yogurt.

Is there something else I should do?  
Fermentation is an anaerobic activity, how can I be sure I’m not getting a nice healthy culture of botulism going?

would yogurt culture be a good idea?

How did my mom ferment pickles in a crock, dammit?

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**Author:** ![Floater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dc4da7/32.png) [@Floater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Floater)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300/2 "2011-09-23T11:38:56Z")

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A friend of mine who prepares _surgurka_ (fermented cucumber) uses black currant leaves (or rather microorganisms on them) to start fermentation.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300/3 "2011-09-23T12:23:08Z")

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Yoghurt seems like a bad choice of starter culture for something like this. Best would probably be an alequat from an existing batch being fermented successfully by someone else (in the manner of a sourdough starter, that is)

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**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300/4 "2011-09-23T12:28:18Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Yoghurt seems like a bad choice of starter culture for something like this. Best would probably be an alequat from an existing batch being fermented successfully by someone else (in the manner of a sourdough starter, that is)

Can you tell me why you think yoghurt would be a bad choice? I thought fermentation relied on lacto bacteria.

Are the lactobacillus bacteria in yoghurt the wrong kind or something?

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300/5 "2011-09-23T13:29:28Z")

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Maybe you could find some “live” sauerkraut?

Seriously, though, air fermentation is the standard way to do things. It’s fine to be wary, but I don’t think you really have a good reason to be.

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**Author:** ![randomface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@randomface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randomface)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300/6 "2011-09-23T13:56:55Z")

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I would try this. Get an unpasteurized bottle of natural vinegar. A bottle of Fleischmann’s organic unpasteurized white vinegar costs something like 3 dollars and has a small cloudy mother culture at the bottom. Shake the bottle up and introduce it to the pepper slurry. I would also introduce a culture from live yogurt or live buttermilk or even from sourdough bread. These two processes can live together during the same ferment. I would leave the slurry in a wide mouthed jar and cover with two layers of cheesecloth and a rubber band.

A sourdough culture contains bacteria cultures that produce lactic acid and yeasts which provide a means for the sugars to be fermented. A vinegar culture will produce acetic acid. All of these will protect your product from dangerous other microbes.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300/7 "2011-09-23T14:03:40Z")

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> [@Sigene](#):
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> How did my mom ferment pickles in a crock, dammit?

Exactly the way you state: just salt, water, and whatever herbs and spices you like. There’s really nothing to be afraid of; let nature take its course. It’ll come out fine. I ferment various vegetables (pickles, sauerkraut, beets, kimchi) occasionally, and I’ve never had to rely on a starter of any kind. Sourdough bread is another story; that I prefer to ferment with a known, healthy starter because you want a good balance of souring bacteria and dough-raising bacteria, and I find my own homemade sourdough starters tend to be good sourers, but not so good risers.

Just follow the recipe as is.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300/8 "2011-09-23T14:11:24Z")

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Moved from General Questions to Cafe Society.

**samclme** , Moderator

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**Author:** ![randomface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5fc32e/32.png) [@randomface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randomface)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300/9 "2011-09-27T16:41:57Z")

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I’m hoping you come back and update us on how this turned out.

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**Author:** ![No\_umlaut\_for\_U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea5d25/32.png) [@No\_umlaut\_for\_U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/No_umlaut_for_U)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-ferment-peppers-starter-culture/597300/10 "2011-09-27T16:44:59Z")

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> [@Sigene](#):
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> Can you tell me why you think yoghurt would be a bad choice? I thought fermentation relied on lacto bacteria.
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> Are the lactobacillus bacteria in yoghurt the wrong kind or something?

Yes. They ferment lactose, not all the plant-produced carbohydrates.  
I’d probably give it a slug from a good kimchee batch.
