It seems to be that last part there that causes the problems. People speculatively buying up non-named tickets en masse and selling on at a profit.
I still think named or photo-stamped tickets would go some way to combatting that.
then if there is no-one overseeing the resale or gifting process then that leaves it open to profiteering. Sure you could resell at face value and do so for perfectly altruistic reasons but the system as is doesn’t limit you to that does it? The door is open for profiteering is it not? And the behaviours driven by that possibility are part of reason why we have problems now,
Yes, absolutely. Similarly, I have a personal rule of thumb that I won’t buy a Kindle book priced at more than $9.99 even if I would buy the printed version for more. I can find plenty to read below that price point. It’s not likely I’d want to resell a book anyway, in whatever format, but knowing that I could (hypothetically) would be worth a few more cents to me in purchase price. (And I do break that rule on rare occasions depending on the book in question, but not without taking a couple of minutes to consider what I’m doing and why.)
And to be clear, the thousand-dollar Rolling Stones tickets are purely hypothetical. In the real world, I’m not spending more than $100 per ticket, regardless of who it is. If your prices are higher than that, I’m happy to go to a bar that night, listen to a fair-to-middlin’ local band play blues covers, have a couple of beers, and wait for your live album to come out, thankyyouverymuch.
These two options, if I remember right, were what Garth Brooks did for his comeback tour a few years ago. Randomized seat locations and the instructions that seats were non-transferrable. Though I think they only did ID checks for floor seats. You could sell seats at the top of the arena online and outside the venu.
The other thing he did was continually opening up new shows at the venue - he ended up playing six nights in Tulsa
Here in Italy all tickets to big concerts are now non-transferable. In Italy there we also have to carry ID at any anyway, so everyone has one, even teens. If you can’t go, you can get the name changed for a small fee. I have still seen people selling tickets outside of the venue on the night - my guess is that they banking on the venue not checking, which, in fact, they often don’t. However, having to by nominative tickets has not dissuaded anyone from going to concerts as far as I can see.
That’s because you don’t see the nonconforming riff raff that couldn’t get in. These are also called fans to the artist. And this is America, we don’t follow Europe. Just tell some people that Italy does it like that and they will want the opposite. Freedom!
I am, of course, being sarcastic.
I’d think that maybe facial recognition may be the next step. You dont need to carry an ID and they could track your face before you even got to the front of the line. But I see people shouting freedom issues there as well. People want to remain anonymous, they don’t want the places they go tracked. Which asking for ticket ID sort of does.
And, the U.S. doesn’t have a national photo ID card, nor do we have laws requiring people to generally carry an ID. Drivers licenses typically serve as our de facto photo IDs, but every state’s card is different (and not every card that’s out there in someone’s possession yet meets the federal “REAL ID” standards).
But, in this case (at least for the Packers tickets which I get, as a season ticket holder), the scalpers would be having to buy the tickets from each individual ticket holder, rather than being able to buy them en masse directly from the team’s ticket office.
I know that’s what they do for Superbowl tickets; there are tickets allocated for every NFL player (and possibly other employees) of all the teams. Some of these players fly into the host city, pick up the tickets set aside for them and then turn around and sell them to resellers (i.e., scalpers) for resale.
The most capitalist friendly way to sell tickets would be a sealed bid auction. Everybody says how much they are willing to pay for particular seats, and then the high bidders get their tickets. That does nothing to make tickets accessible to fans of lower means.
Most tickets on the secondary market do not come from individuals who weren’t able to make it to the show. Many of the tickets on the secondary markets come directly from the band or the venue. They will withhold a number of tickets, and then resell them at higher prices. This lets the band and venue pretend that the tickets are reasonably priced, but still make the profit off the much higher price people are willing to pay. Making tickets non-transferable won’t do anything for those tickets, because the “secondary” sales are really the first sale.
TM tries to prevent this (not altogether successfully) by putting limits on the number of tickets that one person can buy. Usually there’s a limit of 4, 6, or 8 tickets per TM account per event.
Well, the all-nighter on the report was the first hypothetical that came to mind. Maybe instead, I’ve just fallen ill with a stomach virus that came from who knows where, and I’m busy puking prodigiously all over the house like Mr. Creosote. But mrs. dirtball feels just fine.