# How To Hit "Overdrawn" Status On Your Karmic Bank Account **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 13, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979 "2010-04-13T19:39:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/61 "2010-04-14T14:29:16Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yes, I know. I have more money than you and greater earning potential, so that automatically means that I have less authentic relationships with other people. I leave work late for a sterile home where I play with my expensive toys by myself, while you have a close-knit group of family and friends that you wouldn’t trade for all the money in the world. If the myth of the poor rich man is what you need to believe to feel less bad about the choices you’ve made, then rock on with your bad self, but it’s still a myth. Actually, not speaking for **Hal** , but it’s not automatic at all. I know plenty of happy, fulfilled rich people with plenty of close-knit relationships. Equally, I know many poor miserable assholes who go home to their sterile toys. No, it’s not a generalization. It’s a SPECIFIC reaction to the fact that you’re pretty much an unrepentant asshole who has views that seem nearly calculated to alienate you from your fellow humans. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/62 "2010-04-14T14:46:40Z")
I’d agree that my views are calculated to alienate me from liberal douches, but thankfully you guys haven’t completely hijacked the minds of all other humans yet (but it’s only Obama’s first term, so he’s got time). ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/63 "2010-04-14T14:54:59Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I’d agree that my views are calculated to alienate me from liberal douches, but thankfully you guys haven’t completely hijacked the minds of all other humans yet (but it’s only Obama’s first term, so he’s got time). I’m about as solidly centrist conservative as you can get, so that dog don’t hunt. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/64 "2010-04-14T15:05:16Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Meh. Emotion’s fine with me. I just don’t get the attitude of “I am poor now, everyone I’ve ever done anything nice for should now be looking to do nice things for me.” > > IOW, someone please call the whaaaaambulance for the OP. Congratulations! You’re now the second person, in ten years on the Dope, to make my Ignore List. Don’t bother with a snarky reply, hoss. I’ll never see it. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/65 "2010-04-14T15:07:47Z")
OK, well, liberal douches and you, then, apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/66 "2010-04-14T15:36:14Z")
> [@Scarlett67](#): > > The person who was piggybacking on their Wi-Fi for free charged them $50 for the bed. In a perfect world she would have given it to them as thanks for the past free Internet. > > But maybe they didn’t realize who they were selling it to. Could be… or maybe they’d have asked 200 for the bed from someone else. Who knows. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/67 "2010-04-14T16:01:26Z")
Yeah, OK, I already admitted to being a stupidhead, OK? ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/68 "2010-04-14T16:16:54Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > There is nothing indecent about Gary trying to sell the car (or entering it into a junk car derby or turning it into a planter in his backyard). Offering it back to you for free is not “the decent thing,” it’s just one of the options he has. Shocked, I am, that you don’t have any concept of what is and what is not the decent thing to do in a given situation. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yes, I know. I have more money than you and greater earning potential, so that automatically means that I have less authentic relationships with other people. I leave work late for a sterile home where I play with my expensive toys by myself, while you have a close-knit group of family and friends that you wouldn’t trade for all the money in the world. If the myth of the poor rich man is what you need to believe to feel less bad about the choices you’ve made, then rock on with your bad self, but it’s still a myth. **Zeriel** already covered it nicely, but just to reiterate – there is zero need for any generalization here. There are only two possibilities: either the persona you utilize here is your true self, in which case you most certainly do fit the “poor rich man” stereotype; or it’s not your true self, in which case you’re simply a troll. Either/or – you’re useless. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/69 "2010-04-14T16:41:41Z")
Whats that old joke? “Well, you know, you can’t take it with you…” “Then I’m not going!” ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/70 "2010-04-14T16:47:39Z")
Hal, there’s an interesting (well, to me, anyway) parallel between your attitude about Gary and your attitude about me, and I think it typifies the liberal douche mindset. Namely, you think that people who don’t agree with you are morally inferior to you. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/71 "2010-04-14T16:49:49Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Hal, there’s an interesting (well, to me, anyway) parallel between your attitude about Gary and your attitude about me, and I think it typifies the liberal douche mindset. **Namely, you think that people who don’t agree with you are morally inferior to you.** We know morally inferior when we see it. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/72 "2010-04-14T17:05:53Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Namely, you think that people who don’t agree with you are morally inferior to you. Your moral inferiority has nothing to do with our disagreement. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/73 "2010-04-14T17:21:08Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I’m about as solidly centrist conservative as you can get, so that dog don’t hunt. Bear in mind that to extremists, “solidly centrist conservative” is pretty much the same thing as “liberal douche.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/74 "2010-04-14T17:59:46Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I own a car. Are you mad at me for not giving it to you? You should feel the same way about Gary and his car IMHO. Shouldn’t people feel free to feel their own emotions and not the emotions suggested by people who are missing the point? Personally I am mad that you do not send me your paychecks. ---
**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/75 "2010-04-14T18:07:24Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I’d agree that my views are calculated to alienate me from liberal douches, but thankfully you guys haven’t completely hijacked the minds of all other humans yet (but it’s only Obama’s first term, so he’s got time). What does it say about you that you spend your time here alienating people? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/76 "2010-04-14T18:13:06Z")
Just fighting ignorance hansel. And I’ve found the motherlode here at the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/77 "2010-04-14T18:24:00Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Just fighting ignorance hansel. And I’ve found the motherlode here at the SDMB. And how successful do you think you’ve been? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/78 "2010-04-14T18:48:02Z")
Not very. Those who know The Truth (eg, religious zealots, liberal douches) often don’t like listening to reason. But I’m trying. ---
**Author:** ![hansel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6bbea6/32.png) [@hansel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hansel)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/79 "2010-04-14T18:49:43Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Not very. Those who know The Truth (eg, religious zealots, liberal douches) often don’t like listening to reason. But I’m trying. If you were to adopt a more reasonable tone (i.e., if your essential posture was less about alienating the douches), do you think you’d be more successful or less? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979/80 "2010-04-14T18:53:01Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Not very. Those who know The Truth (eg, religious zealots, liberal douches) often don’t like listening to reason. **But I’m trying.** Very. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-hit-overdrawn-status-on-your-karmic-bank-account/535979.md?page=5)