# How to NOT get terminated? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 29, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-not-get-terminated/629734 "2012-07-29T04:49:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-not-get-terminated/629734/1 "2012-07-29T04:49:44Z")
How do some mass killers survive and make it to trial without getting shot on the spot? You’d think that the police would immediately put a few rounds in someone actively shooting or someone that was actively shooting. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-not-get-terminated/629734/2 "2012-07-29T04:57:46Z")
It’s called due process. ---
**Author:** ![Randvek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Randvek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randvek)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-not-get-terminated/629734/3 "2012-07-29T10:23:30Z")
> [@Duckster](#): > > It’s called due process. I THINK he was asking how police apprehend suspects in the first place without the suspect dying. If that is the case, I believe the answer is a mix of “people often surrender when faced with an overwhelming show of police,” “non-lethal but debilitating methods like rubber bullets and tasers,” and “you’d be surprised at how many of them do actually die via cop or suicide.” If that’s not what he’s asking, then I haven’t a clue. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-not-get-terminated/629734/4 "2012-07-29T10:32:07Z")
I’ve read a couple accounts of spree killers who actually seem kind of docile after the initial rampage. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-not-get-terminated/629734/5 "2012-07-29T10:49:43Z")
Change your name from Sarah Connor to Sally Conarski. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-not-get-terminated/629734/6 "2012-07-29T15:09:05Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > You’d think… No, I wouldn’t think that. That’s not what police are about. We’ve put hundreds of years into culturalizing police so that they safely apprehend and turn criminals over to the justice system. If you think about it for more than two seconds, you’d see why this is so critically important that it’s an absolute mandate in almost every situation. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-not-get-terminated/629734/7 "2012-07-29T16:21:41Z")
> [@IceQube](#): > > You’d think that the police would immediately put a few rounds in someone actively shooting or someone that was actively shooting. The ones arrested are not actively shooting when the police arrive or surrender when they do. ---
**Author:** ![IceQube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@IceQube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IceQube)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-not-get-terminated/629734/8 "2012-07-29T18:35:10Z")
> [@Randvek](#): > > I THINK he was asking how police apprehend suspects in the first place without the suspect dying. If that is the case, I believe the answer is a mix of “people often surrender when faced with an overwhelming show of police,” “non-lethal but debilitating methods like rubber bullets and tasers,” and “you’d be surprised at how many of them do actually die via cop or suicide.” > > If that’s not what he’s asking, then I haven’t a clue. Yeah, that’s what I was asking. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-not-get-terminated/629734/9 "2012-07-29T19:59:47Z")
If the OP is referring to the Colorado shooting, from my understanding the police did not see him actively shooting anyone. He discarded his weapons and walked into the parking lot with his hands raised. And there were already a gaggle of cops there. In that situation, shooting would not be justified and there would be a lot of witnesses to that fact.