# How to spot a fake orgasm? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 16, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769 "2006-07-16T19:48:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![alterego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@alterego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alterego)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/1 "2006-07-16T19:48:50Z")
Owing that the penis may not make the best lie detector, suppose this is manual stimulation of a woman with the fingers. Are there tell-tale signs, apart from sounds, such as certain muscle contractions, that would allow one to determine if it was a real orgasm? What and where? If she was well aware of her anatomy, how well could a woman learn to fake these signs? ---
**Author:** ![A.R.Cane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@A.R.Cane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A.R.Cane)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/2 "2006-07-16T20:03:36Z")
There is a flushing of the skin on the chest, although this might not always be obvious. ---
**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/3 "2006-07-16T21:07:02Z")
> [@alterego](#): > > Owing that the penis may not make the best lie detector, suppose this is manual stimulation of a woman with the fingers. Are there tell-tale signs, apart from sounds, such as certain muscle contractions, that would allow one to determine if it was a real orgasm? What and where? If she was well aware of her anatomy, how well could a woman learn to fake these signs? A real orgasm, when held up to a strong light, will have a faint watermark, usually a picture of one of the US Presidents. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/4 "2006-07-16T21:09:42Z")
**How to spot a fake orgasm** Well, the ones the street vendors have are always fake. Seriously, aside from some flushing (which will be hard to spot, especially in the dark) I don’t think there is any way to prove whether an orgasm is real if the woman is determined to get one past you. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/5 "2006-07-16T21:23:48Z")
> [@alterego](#): > > How to spot a fake orgasm? [PET scan.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgasm) ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/6 "2006-07-16T21:45:01Z")
You would never know. ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/7 "2006-07-16T22:02:43Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > You would never know. 🆒 You are _SO_ right. 😉 But, to address the OP. First, I’d like to say, we are all responsible for our own orgasm. If you are concerned about pleasing her, then ask her if what you do makes her happy. Ask her what you could do differently to increase her pleasure. If she gets out books and diagrams, perhaps she’s been faking. Honest communication is the only way to know for sure. ---
**Author:** ![GorillaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@GorillaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GorillaMan)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/8 "2006-07-16T22:03:44Z")
> [@11811](#): > > A real orgasm, when held up to a strong light, will have a faint watermark, usually a picture of one of the US Presidents. Also, if you rub them between your thumb and fingers, there’s a distinct texture which is lacking in fake ones. ---
**Author:** ![Chez\_Guevara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/aeb1de/32.png) [@Chez\_Guevara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chez_Guevara)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/9 "2006-07-16T22:10:08Z")
> [@11811](#): > > A real orgasm, when held up to a strong light, will have a faint watermark, usually a picture of one of the US Presidents. President Johnson? ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/10 "2006-07-16T22:11:48Z")
This is a test with (IMHO) no false positives but many false negatives: Vaginal contractions. Note any rhythmic or sudden tightening, almost spasm like. Also female ejaculation, another pretty proof-positive sign. Simple tightening often preceeds an orgasm and isn’t really proof of a real orgasm. Unfortauntely, a large portion of women won’t show this “sign.” Or maybe they were never really getting off with me and just lying. Who knows for sure? No one. But who cares? (I keed, I keed) Anyway, the best solution for your particular questions relating to whether or not your lover is climaxing with you is probably to just ask her. Honest communication isn’t likely to hurt. Or just shine a 1800 watt xenon-halide lamp through her and look for the watermarks like **1181** suggested. Pretty funny, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2006, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/11 "2006-07-16T22:12:06Z")
> [@Chez Guevara](#): > > President Johnson? Johnson or Bush. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/12 "2006-07-17T00:16:23Z")
> [@11811](#): > > A real orgasm, when held up to a strong light, will have a faint watermark, usually a picture of one of the US Presidents. That made my day! ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/13 "2006-07-17T01:13:10Z")
When she’s reading, a _real_ orgasm will make her lose her place. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/14 "2006-07-17T05:27:17Z")
[You could use a polygraph](http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN02/wn101102.html). ---
**Author:** ![Common\_Tater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/common_tater/32/13846_2.png) [@Common\_Tater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Common_Tater)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/15 "2006-07-17T05:47:35Z")
Why would anyone want to fake an orgasm? ---
**Author:** ![Feces\_Of\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8797f3/32.png) [@Feces\_Of\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feces_Of_Death)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/16 "2006-07-17T07:01:13Z")
Who cares? As long as YOU had an orgasm, that’s all that matters. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/17 "2006-07-17T10:11:21Z")
“I want what she’s having!” ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/18 "2006-07-17T10:13:43Z")
> [@Feces Of Death](#): > > Who cares? As long as YOU had an orgasm, that’s all that matters. Ah, Grasshopper, you have much to learn! A well-satisfied lady is far more likely to wish to repeat the pleasure with you. Again and again… ---
**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/19 "2006-07-17T10:42:25Z")
> [@GorillaMan](#): > > Also, if you rub them between your thumb and fingers, there’s a distinct texture which is lacking in fake ones. …and the ink rubs off 😉 ---
**Author:** ![picunurse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@picunurse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/picunurse)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769/20 "2006-07-17T13:08:16Z")
> [@threemae](#): > > This is a test with (IMHO)\*\* no false positives but many false negatives: > > Vaginal contractions. Note any rhythmic or sudden tightening, almost spasm like. Also female ejaculation, another pretty proof-positive sign.\*\* > > Simple tightening often preceeds an orgasm and isn’t really proof of a real orgasm. > > Unfortauntely, a large portion of women won’t show this “sign.” Or maybe they were never really getting off with me and just lying. > > Who knows for sure? No one. > > But who cares? (I keed, I keed) > > Anyway, the best solution for your particular questions relating to whether or not your lover is climaxing with you is probably to just ask her. Honest communication isn’t likely to hurt. > > Or just shine a 1800 watt xenon-halide lamp through her and look for the watermarks like **1181** suggested. Pretty funny, by the way. (My bold) “female ejaculation” is simply a bit urine expelled during sex. All I can say about the “rhythmic or sudden tightening” is, practice makes perfect. Men are so gulible, sometimes. 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-spot-a-fake-orgasm/364769.md?page=2)