# How to stop someone from jaywalking: punch them in the face.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 17, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557 "2010-06-17T15:33:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/301 "2010-06-22T15:48:49Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> It depends. What is “said woman’s companion” doing while you’re trying to effect the arrest?

I see what you did there.

> [@Bambro](#):
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> She may have been right about everything, but she sure was a cunt sore about it.

Awwwwww, did somebody’s widdle feelings get hurt because the big mean lady was right while the poor defenseless man was wrong? Awwwwwwww. \*Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. \*I’m \*so \*sorry. Let me go bake you a nice batch of cookies to show you how sorry I am! Then maybe later I can gestate a baby for you. Would those be more appropriate womanly activities than proving that someone is being a fucking retard?

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/302 "2010-06-22T16:02:15Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Awwwwww, did somebody’s widdle feelings get hurt because the big mean lady was right while the poor defenseless man was wrong? Awwwwwwww. \*Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. \*I’m \*so \*sorry. Let me go bake you a nice batch of cookies to show you how sorry I am! Then maybe later I can gestate a baby for you. Would those be more appropriate womanly activities than proving that someone is being a fucking retard?

Just out of curiosity, can we get the cookies without the baby and the blistering sarcasm, or is it a package deal?

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/303 "2010-06-22T16:03:46Z")

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If she wants to sarcastically bake up a batch of cookies, I’ll still be happy to have a couple.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/304 "2010-06-22T16:17:00Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, can we get the cookies without the baby and the blistering sarcasm, or is it a package deal?

I’m with Hal. I’ll take the sarcasm cookies, but I aint takin’ no baby. Never had a cookie that good.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/305 "2010-06-22T16:39:18Z")

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I’d like the baby cookies!

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/306 "2010-06-22T17:05:13Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, can we get the cookies without the baby and the blistering sarcasm, or is it a package deal?

Baby is option. Blistering sarcasm is pretty much par for the course. But the cookies will be delicious.

> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> I’d like the baby cookies!

Are these cookies made \*with \*babies? 'Cause I’m worried that might get soggy unless I pan-seared the baby bits first. And that’s just turning into too much work.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/307 "2010-06-22T17:56:51Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Are these cookies made \*with \*babies? 'Cause I’m worried that might get soggy unless I pan-seared the baby bits first. And that’s just turning into too much work.

Besides, any fool knows that if you have quality baby bits, you want them breaded and deep-fried, not baked into some cookies.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/308 "2010-06-22T18:03:58Z")

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I thought they were supposed to be flash-frozen bits. That way you can enjoy sushi-grade baby bits later on.

You people are sick.

😃

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/309 "2010-06-22T18:42:00Z")

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[Iraq Veteran Beating Tape: Video Of NYPD Assaulting Walter Harvin Released (VIDEO) | HuffPost New York](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/iraq-veteran-beating-tape_n_620853.html) Police never step over the line.

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**Author:** ![Bambro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@Bambro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambro)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/310 "2010-06-22T18:47:00Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I see what you did there.
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> Awwwwww, did somebody’s widdle feelings get hurt because the big mean lady was right while the poor defenseless man was wrong? Awwwwwwww. \*Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. \*I’m \*so \*sorry. Let me go bake you a nice batch of cookies to show you how sorry I am! Then maybe later I can gestate a baby for you. Would those be more appropriate womanly activities than proving that someone is being a fucking retard?

Actually women shouldn’t even be on the internet (other than getting stuffed in low budget porn). It is way above their understanding.

So shut the fuck up and go suck a dick…or just shut the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/311 "2010-06-22T18:47:00Z")

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You’re just trolling now.

Fucking douchebag.

ETA: in response to **gonzomax**.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/312 "2010-06-22T18:49:39Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/iraq-veteran-beating-tape\_n\_620853.html](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/iraq-veteran-beating-tape_n_620853.html) Police never step over the line.

When you’re done beating up that strawman, do you think you’ll need someone to help you dust off? It’ll itch if you just leave it all over your clothes.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/313 "2010-06-22T18:59:55Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> When you’re done beating up that strawman, do you think you’ll need someone to help you dust off? It’ll itch if you just leave it all over your clothes.

[Fuck Off.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_Diallo)

[Fuck Off Some More.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima)

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/314 "2010-06-22T19:01:17Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> I would be astonished to learn that any big city cop on the streets did not carry at least a collapsible baton as part of his standard issue gear.

I think you’re 100% correct. I was thinking he might have left it in the car for a minor jaywalking issue but I’ll bet they’re trained to keep thier gear handy because you never know.

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**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/315 "2010-06-22T19:01:31Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/iraq-veteran-beating-tape\_n\_620853.html](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/iraq-veteran-beating-tape_n_620853.html) Police never step over the line.

Did that dude push the cop in the doorway and then later get all up in his grill menacingly? He sure did take a beating, though. Ouch.

Yet another example of some douchebag thinking he can control the situation with the officers.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/316 "2010-06-22T19:14:26Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> [Fuck Off.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_Diallo)
> 
> [Fuck Off Some More.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima)

Um pardom me dipshit, but no one is claiming **gonzo** ,s link isn’t true. That’s not why it’s a strawman. Try to keep up.

Nobody was stupid enough to make the sweeping generlization that gonzo posted. His post is a strawman because it’s totally irellevant to the specific argument in this thread.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/317 "2010-06-22T19:17:27Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Awwwwww, did somebody’s widdle feelings get hurt because the big mean lady was right while the poor defenseless man was wrong? Awwwwwwww. \*Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. \*I’m \*so \*sorry. Let me go bake you a nice batch of cookies to show you how sorry I am! Then maybe later I can gestate a baby for you. Would those be more appropriate womanly activities than proving that someone is being a fucking retard?

The cookies sound good but if you’re offering to gestate a baby without the fun of personally fertilizing the egg that’s a pretty bitchy thing to do.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/318 "2010-06-22T19:22:13Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> [Fuck Off.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amadou_Diallo)
> 
> [Fuck Off Some More.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima)

Huh?

Are you completely insane?

The fact that people have been defending the officer in this particular instance does _not_ mean that we are unaware of, or unconcerned by, the real instances of police criminality and brutality. Do you get it, numbskull? Just because we defend this cop, in this situation, does not mean that we defend all cops for anything they might choose to do.

For the benefit of brain-dead fuck-knuckles like you and **gonzomax** , here are links to six separate threads from the past couple of years where i have been heavily critical of police actions. There are probably other people in this thread who could come up with a similar list.

[1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=494500) [2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=494301) [3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=525244) [4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=526619) [5](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=563079) [6](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=544631)

Thread #5 was actually started by me, and my comments in the other threads included things like:

> [@Fucking cops...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-cops/474087/31):
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> Welcome to the club.
> 
> I have a lot of respect for good cops, and i think the job that police are asked to do is a difficult and dangerous one. My stepfather is a retired cop, and i respect him and his sense of duty a lot.
> 
> But the profession does attract more than its fair share of permanent juveniles, douchebags, and plain old bullies.

and

> [@Police are gamers too!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/police-are-gamers-too/474280/12):
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> In what fucking universe is it reasonable for a cop to take one of your possessions merely to “make sure no one reported it stolen”?
> 
> Where would it stop? “I’m sorry sir, but while your car has not been reported stolen, we need to confiscate it just to make sure.”

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/319 "2010-06-22T19:23:49Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/iraq-veteran-beating-tape\_n\_620853.html](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/iraq-veteran-beating-tape_n_620853.html) Police never step over the line.

They step over the line any number of times; were there no videotape of the incident from the OP, I’d have little trouble figuring this was one of those times.

However, this time there was videotape; we don’t need to wonder whether this happened to be one of the times when the police stepped over the line; we can see for ourselves whether this happened to be one of the times when an officer went on the attack for no good reason, or whether the officer was assaulted first and responded with a reasonable amount of force.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/320 "2010-06-22T19:41:24Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/iraq-veteran-beating-tape\_n\_620853.html](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/22/iraq-veteran-beating-tape_n_620853.html) Police never step over the line.

[Thanks](http://gaylordhub.com/2009/06/11/gaylord-police-officer-honored-for-saving-a-life/) [again](http://www.vernonhills.org/police_news/OfficerSavesBabysLife.asp) [for](http://www.lifesaving.com/spotlight/show_article.php?section=spot&id=533) [reminding](http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=50171&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+officerrss/top_news_stories+(Officer.com:+Top+News+Stories)) [us](http://www.wgal.com/news/23837721/detail.html) [what](http://www.theregalcourier.com/news/story.php?story_id=125381564290303100) [scumbags](http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/23670533/detail.html) [all](http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/mar/12/police-recognize-officers-citizens-life-saving-act/) [these](http://www.kbnd.com/338271.aspx) [pigs](http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/press/atlantic/article_44ecd4ab-5bda-546a-a5f9-49ed44f27204.html) [are](http://www.jsonline.com/news/waukesha/29414159.html). What would we do without [you](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)) and your highly relevant cites?

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