# How to stop someone from jaywalking: punch them in the face.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 17, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557 "2010-06-17T15:33:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/141 "2010-06-18T17:29:45Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> You miss the point, which is understandable because it’s right in front of your face and you’re not particularly bright.

Coming from someone barely a notch above a fuckwit, I’m going to take that as an insult!

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/142 "2010-06-18T17:33:06Z")

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Anybody else notice… Did the cop have an accent? I could have sworn that I detected an accent of some sort, South African English or Australian? Perhaps a Germanic or Slavic accent?

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/143 "2010-06-18T17:33:50Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> How high a volume? Compared to where? Have you seen the paperwork related to this crackdown?
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> And seriously, Seattle’s crime-rate is low enough that jaywalking is a high priority?

The crackdown mandate and volumes of injury/death are mentioned in most of the articles I’ve read on this (hint). Even if I did bother to tell you what the volumes are, what level would be acceptable to \*you \*for a crackdown?

Also, just because there are major crimes and minor crimes occurring (everywhere!) doesn’t mean minor crime doesn’t need or deserve attention.

ETA; You, **VT** , that was funny and effective.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/144 "2010-06-18T17:34:07Z")

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I could almost understand this being some redneck or yuppie privileged teen, but a black girl? :eek: Didn’t her parents teach her that if you even act like you may be resisting arrest you’re liable to get shot 50 times in the chest? Her friend too. They’re lucky not to be Darwin Award winners.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/145 "2010-06-18T17:34:55Z")

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A South African cop reject…now that wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, based on his behaviour.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/146 "2010-06-18T17:37:01Z")

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> [@descamisado](#):
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> The crackdown mandate and volumes of injury/death are mentioned in most of the articles I’ve read on this (hint). Even if I did bother to tell you what the volumes are, what level would be acceptable to you for a crackdown?
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> Also, just because there are major crimes and minor crimes occurring (everywhere!) doesn’t mean minor crime doesn’t need or deserve attention.
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> ETA; You, **VT** , that was funny and effective.

No, it means it deserves less attention. It’d be interesting to know if any more serious crime occured in that neighborhood, during the time it took to get everything under some semblance of control.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/147 "2010-06-18T18:01:45Z")

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> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#):
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> Well I thought it was hilarious. And now, after reading your posts in this thread, I’ve just punched my cat.
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> I hope you’re happy.

Achtung!! Pussy punching is strictly verboten! This is your final warning.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/148 "2010-06-18T18:02:56Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> I could almost understand this being some redneck or yuppie privileged teen, but a black girl? :eek: Didn’t her parents teach her that if you even act like you may be resisting arrest you’re liable to get shot 50 times in the chest? Her friend too. They’re lucky not to be Darwin Award winners.

and as you see from my previous post. Both girls had records so it’s not as if they had no experience with the law.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/149 "2010-06-18T18:14:03Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> I don’t care if it’s a cop or not, if he did that to a woman I was with, for a similar pathetic reason, I’d be fighting with him.

Would you also encourage her to mouth off to a cop, to push one if she felt like it? To resist arrest.

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> Yes,because cops never pick and choose when they are going to stick to the exact letter of the law, do they? If a cop decides to make a point of something just because there is something s/he doesn’t like about a person, they are being an asshole, not an officer of the law.

And if a cop is told to watch a particular section where jaywalking has been a problem he was only doing his job. If someone gives him a hard time or decides to completely ignore his authority and just walk away while he’s issuing a ticket the officer has to respond. The girls escalated the situation to violence not the officer.

I’ll ask you the same question gonzo hasn’t answered. After being assaulted how would you recommend the officer respond?

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/150 "2010-06-18T18:18:35Z")

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> [@descamisado](#):
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> You sure you used spellcheck

Evidently not on that post. ⭕o

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/151 "2010-06-18T18:35:58Z")

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Ok, Ian Walsh is the name of the officer in question? Maybe that’s an English accent I am Hearing… maybe Australian.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/152 "2010-06-18T18:38:15Z")

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M’ ladies, perchance you could unhand me, lest I am forced to pummel thee.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/153 "2010-06-18T18:51:56Z")

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> [@MTCicero](#):
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> I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: Fucking pigs.

Hey, whatever tickles your peach, man.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/154 "2010-06-18T18:53:02Z")

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Hell, maybe he’s one of them brawlin’ Irish. Got a leprechaun up his ass and wot not.

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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/155 "2010-06-18T19:09:42Z")

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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> M’ ladies, perchance you could unhand me, lest I am forced to pummel thee.

that’s a riot. While urban divas cuss him out in their own style.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/156 "2010-06-18T19:23:42Z")

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This is what happens when you find yourself on any street in the US named after MLK, Jr. Nothing good ever comes of it.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/157 "2010-06-18T19:27:24Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> This is what happens when you find yourself on any street in the US named after MLK, Jr. Nothing good ever comes of it.

You’re on [CPT](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12587703&postcount=24), bruh, [CPT](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colored_People's_Time).

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/158 "2010-06-18T19:30:25Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> This is what happens when you find yourself on any street in the US named after MLK, Jr. Nothing good ever comes of it.

I beg to differ. Two urban divas/criminals getting their asses handed to them by the man makes my day. So, IMO two or three good things came of it.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/159 "2010-06-18T20:28:57Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> No, it means it deserves less attention. It’d be interesting to know if any more serious crime occured in that neighborhood, during the time it took to get everything under some semblance of control.

More serious crime? You mean like, say, burglary?

Look, fuckwit, I know you have this belief that it’s okay to ignore laws pretty much at your whim when you disagree with them (your criminal record proves that) but the real world works somewhat differently. Follow the fucking law, and don’t fuck with the goddamn cop when he’s arresting you for committing a crime.

Those girls got off damn easy, almost as though this were a good cop using the minimum of force necessary to accomplish his job.

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**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-to-stop-someone-from-jaywalking-punch-them-in-the-face/543557/160 "2010-06-18T20:54:51Z")

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You sound a little butthurt, Z. Maybe you shouldn’t let things get you so riled?

And why are you referring to events that happened over 25 yrs ago as if they are relevant now?

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