# "How we 86'd a police office from our protected space" - The most sensitive anarchists ever! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 20, 2010, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300 "2010-07-20T00:36:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/121 "2010-07-24T20:20:08Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I bet the local “anarchist” would have a fucking cow if a local McDonalds, gas station, or used clothing store told em to get the fuck out and never come back… Yep–I’ve known anarchists who’ve been followed around used clothing stores by suspicious employees who suspected them of being shoplifters; it really chapped their asses. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/122 "2010-07-24T20:42:02Z")
Forunately restaurants with dress codes have become exceedingly rare and even those that have nominal dress codes are less and less likely to enforce them as they realize that most people don’t want to have to deal with them. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/123 "2010-07-24T21:02:17Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > [@Magiver](#): > > > > You’ve never come across stories of anarchists causing… anarchy? > > Do you and **Ludovic** have a bet going about who can say the biggest non sequitur about my posts or something? C’mon, you can tell me. You originally responded to my post so I don’t grok your response. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/124 "2010-07-24T23:18:03Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > > > [@Magiver](#): > > > > > > You’ve never come across stories of anarchists causing… anarchy? > > > > Do you and **Ludovic** have a bet going about who can say the biggest non sequitur about my posts or something? C’mon, you can tell me. > > You originally responded to my post so I don’t grok your response. Seriously? I mean, seriously? Okay, then, a straight answer: yes, I’ve come across stories of anarchists causing anarchy. I hope that clears everything up. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2010, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/125 "2010-07-24T23:27:01Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > [@billfish678](#): > > > > I bet the local “anarchist” would have a fucking cow if a local McDonalds, gas station, or used clothing store told em to get the fuck out and never come back… > > Yep–I’ve known anarchists who’ve been followed around used clothing stores by suspicious employees who suspected them of being shoplifters; it really chapped their asses. Is that true? Or is that some subtle whoosh I missed? Cause if not I find that funny as hell. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/126 "2010-07-25T00:50:04Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > > [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > > > As I saked earlier, how do you feel about restaurants with dress codes? > > In general, I object to most dress codes except when they are necessary to identify people for purposes of public health, safety, or security. I particularly object to any dress code for patrons of a public accommodation that accepts walk in business beyond a minimum public hygiene standard. To that extent private membership organizations or clubs with dress codes are less objectionable to me. My bad, I phrased the question poorly. I don’t like dress codes either and rarely eat in places that have them. But I do think that a private business has the right to have and enforce dress codes, if they choose, and that doing so doesn’t make them discriminatory, or particularly bad. Would you disagree with this? Do you think a nice four star restaurant has the right to turn me away when I show up in flip-flops, cut-off shorts, and an Iron Maiden T-shirt? Do you think that doing so means I’ve been discriminated against? Also, to your other post, while coat and tie codes are fading, a lot of the clubs around here forbid things like hoodies and baggy pants, which they view as gang attire. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/127 "2010-07-25T01:08:47Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > > > > [@billfish678](#): > > > > > > I bet the local “anarchist” would have a fucking cow if a local McDonalds, gas station, or used clothing store told em to get the fuck out and never come back… > > > > Yep–I’ve known anarchists who’ve been followed around used clothing stores by suspicious employees who suspected them of being shoplifters; it really chapped their asses. > > Is that true? Or is that some subtle whoosh I missed? Cause if not I find that funny as hell. Definitely true! I offer it without comment 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/128 "2010-07-25T01:37:36Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > A cop named Crooker? Too much wrong here. I was actually thinking “an anarchist named Langley?” Considering we all know whats based in Langley, VA ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/129 "2010-07-25T02:29:04Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Also, to your other post, while coat and tie codes are fading, a lot of the clubs around here forbid things like hoodies and baggy pants, which they view as gang attire. This dress code angle is lame. They did NOT kick out the cop for some dress code violation. And it sounds like it was a place where a good fraction of the customers walk in, place an order at the counter and walk out. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/130 "2010-07-25T03:05:22Z")
My point is simply that a restaurant has the right to refuse service, for any reason, other than they may not refuse service to protected classes simply for being in a protected class. (For instance, you can refuse service to a black man if he violates establishment policy, but not simply because he’s black.) Obvioulsly I’m aware that the officer was not refused service because he was violating a dress code. Jesus Christ, that’s clearly not the point I’m making. My point is simply that numerous establishments refuse to do buisiness with people for all sorts of reasons. This cofee shop is not unique in that regard. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2010, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/131 "2010-07-25T07:44:24Z")
I’d love it if public businesses had to provide services to everyone, but they don’t. Anarchists are all about using the system they hate to get what they want. They actually see that as moral. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/132 "2010-07-26T01:44:56Z")
> [@Reply](#): > > > [@Skammer](#): > > > > So, the indigents are not homeless anymore, they’re “houseless”? > > It’s possible to consider a place a home without paying through the roof (no pun intended) to erect a permanent shelter on it. > > > [@acsenray](#): > > > > I’m sure the distinction means something to vegan-anarchist cafetistas. > > Snarkyness aside, not having a house/apartment is in and of itself quite draining. It isn’t necessary to rub it in their faces by implying that they don’t belong _anywhere_ in the community. People who live in rented apartments are also houseless, but they’re not homeless. “Home” implies a fixed place of abode to which one has a legal right to occupy and exclude others from. ---
**Author:** ![Reply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reply/32/15952_2.png) [@Reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reply)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2010, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300/133 "2010-07-26T07:32:30Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > People who live in rented apartments are also houseless, but they’re not homeless. Yup. Our language ain’t perfect. > [@](#): > > “Home” implies a fixed place of abode to which one has a legal right to occupy and exclude others from. Maybe to you. ETA: I don’t want to offtrack this discussion. The rationale has been explained. If you think it’s stupid, just don’t use it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-86d-a-police-office-from-our-protected-space-the-most-sensitive-anarchists-ever/547300.md?page=6)