# How We Get From Here To Internment Camps **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 16, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186 "2016-11-16T18:22:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/121 "2016-11-19T03:59:20Z")
> [@Neo-Calredic](#): > > This was my chilling thought for the morning: > > Once Trump takes power, we are only a certain number of terrorist incidents away from Islamic people being forced into camps… > > ISIS and every other group of Islamic terrorists know all of this, and it’s their ultimate dream come true. Their recruitment would reach unprecedented levels. They WILL try to make it happen. I’d be more worried if Trump really were a virulent ideologue like the Austrian painter with the moustache. But instead he’s just an aging short-fingered showman whose publicity stunt went too far. His agenda will primarily be self-enrichment. Politically, he’ll balance between token appeals to his base, while appearing moderate to Congress. Immigration detention is already a $20 billion business in the U.S. We can expect the new GOP to increase this, in part to enrich private prison shareholders, but Muslims who are U.S. citizens have much more to fear, as we have already seen, from the violence of Trumpist bigots. Yes, ISIS is delighted that Trump won and will work to exploit it. But Russia (de facto ally of ISIS, at least in the near term) is a far greater threat, especially with Vlad and Donnie engaging in pillow talk. > [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Well, stock in [private prisons](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/09/prison-stocks-are-flying-on-trump-victory.html) has soared since The Trumpster won… Yes, :mad: America will suddenly lurch toward right-wing solutions: private prisons, rollbacks of worker rights, open season for polluters — urban residents will be told, like Flint’s, literally “to drink shit.” We have to hope that’s _all_ we get from the next four years. Given the bad advisers he’s already picked, and the influence Putin and others with anti-American agenda may have on the ignorant showman, things could get very bad. An ordinary right-winger like Kasich, Rubio or Walker would have been a much safer bet. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/122 "2016-11-19T04:13:29Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The last thing we need is someone coming in and making fun of us while we try to prepare for this. It’s no better when the Trump supporters come and gloat. > > It’s always normal to prepare for what won’t happen. Most of the things you prepare for never happen. (Hence why I thought Trump would lose.) Making fun does not help in any way. There would have been plenty here who would have gloated if Clinton had won. You should probably expect to get at least a bit of that back from the other side. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/123 "2016-11-19T05:22:33Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > It’s perfectly reasonable. In my opinion, Jewish Americans are one divorce (meaning Ivanka versus Jared Kushner) away from becoming the targets of major scapegoating. Scapegoating Muslims is all very well, but it’s not what really revs up the base–not as much as scapegoating Jewish people does. More history to the hate. no offense but the left has been saying this forever, and people see thru it. Its always “people who don’t like gays, blacks, etc. MUST hate Jews.” Its a political manipulation, tho also a way for liberal Jews to feel good about themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e99b99/32.png) [@Einstein\_was\_a\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Einstein_was_a_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/124 "2016-11-19T05:41:49Z")
> [@Neo-Calredic](#): > > This was my chilling thought for the morning: > > Once Trump takes power, we are only a certain number of terrorist incidents away from Islamic people being forced into camps. Any act of terrorism that can be even tangentially connected to Muslims will do as justification. One big one (say, a few hundred dead) would be enough, but a few small to medium-sized ones over a short enough period of time would probably suffice as well. Trump and his personal Joseph Goebbels, Steve Bannon, will whip enough of the country into a terrified frenzy that the majority will support anything they propose to “make everyone safe.” The ratings-hungry media will be only too happy to help them. Remember what it was like right after 9/11? We ended up with overwhelming bipartisan approval for the Patriot Act and the second Iraq War. > > ISIS and every other group of Islamic terrorists know all of this, and it’s their ultimate dream come true. Their recruitment would reach unprecedented levels. They WILL try to make it happen. > > Yes, all of this would be against the law as it currently exists. But I have little trouble imagining Congress, driven by a panicked populace, voting to give Trump “emergency powers” to “restore order,” making it “temporarily” legal for him to do this. (Granted, a lot of them don’t like Trump, but they know it would be simple enough to impeach him and put Pence in his place.) > > Once Trump’s (or Pence’s) government has assembled their force to lock up the Muslims and the camps are built, all that shit is here to stay. There’s no way they will willingly disband it . Which means some other group will be next. > > I’m not arguing that this is inevitable, but it does seem frighteningly _plausible._ People may want to believe we’re better than this as a nation, but the Japanese internment camps of WWII and the genocide inflicted on Native Americans indicate otherwise. Not only can it happen here, it HAS happened here – and it’s never been closer to happening again than it is right now. Paranoia will destroy ya. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/125 "2016-11-19T08:15:27Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Because I am not hysterical. Trump is gonna be President. The President is not nearly that powerful. Especially after his first 100 days and his numbers tank. We have had internment camps in the past. Go tell the Japanese-Americans such a thing is impossible they’ll laugh in your face. Why not now? No one claiming that concerned people are “hysterical” has an answer beyond “you’re hysterical”. And that’s no answer. No, the PotUS _by himself_ is not that powerful, but the PotUS + Congress _is_. It has happened before, you have failed to demonstrate why it could not happen again. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/126 "2016-11-19T08:29:49Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Don’t get me wrong, Waco had big city culture! Several Jews there, tho mostly they were in Temple. I see what you did there. I think. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/127 "2016-11-19T09:27:46Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > No, the PotUS _by himself_ is not that powerful, but the PotUS + Congress _is_. It has happened before, you have failed to demonstrate why it could not happen again. Which eight Senate Democrats do you think are going to join a unanimous Republican bloc and vote for internment camps? Do keep in mind that enough Republican senators have stated that they have no interest in removing the filibuster. Honestly, I think people have been saying “He’s going to impose martial law and start putting people in camps” about every single president in my lifetime, with the possible exception of George HW Bush. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/128 "2016-11-19T10:10:56Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Since the Trump Administration is likely to be far more friendly to Israel than the Obama Administration, Im guessing that this opinion is misinformed. I think you’re the one who’s wrong here - I predict a swift deterioration in relations between eh Truyp Administration and Israel. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/129 "2016-11-19T10:22:32Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I think you’re the one who’s wrong here - I predict a swift deterioration in relations between eh Truyp Administration and Israel. This article argues otherwise [http://ijr.com/2016/11/737617-why-donald-trump-will-be-the-most-pro-israel-president-in-a-generation/](http://ijr.com/2016/11/737617-why-donald-trump-will-be-the-most-pro-israel-president-in-a-generation/) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/130 "2016-11-19T10:39:50Z")
Well, great for the Jews - guess life will continue to suck and suck harder for the Muslims and immigrants. Let’s just forget that the Bible-thumping types only support Israel because they see it’s existence as a harbinger of the End Times. You know - when their “loving God” kills off most of humanity and sends them to hell as a sign of his affection. Their support of Israel has nothing to do with liking or even tolerating Jews. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/131 "2016-11-19T11:03:44Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I see what you did there. I think. Its a joke for my homies. There’s a small town not far from Waco called Temple. That joke kills 'em in Killeen, and as far north as Irving. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/132 "2016-11-19T15:36:04Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > There would have been plenty here who would have gloated if Clinton had won. Hell, some of them were already gloating about a Dem win BEFORE the election. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/133 "2016-11-19T16:02:16Z")
Indeed, you have much to be proud of. You have helped to elevate a shallow, vapid, unstable and ill-tempered child to the most powerful man on the planet. What could possibly go right? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/134 "2016-11-19T16:05:32Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > no offense but the left has been saying this forever, and people see thru it. Its always “people who don’t like gays, blacks, etc. MUST hate Jews.” Its a political manipulation, tho also a way for liberal Jews to feel good about themselves. I wonder who these people were being manipulated by: [http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-supporter-screams-jew-s-a-at-reporters-calls-them-the-enemy-during-rally/](http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-supporter-screams-jew-s-a-at-reporters-calls-them-the-enemy-during-rally/) > [@](#): > > Trump rails against the media on a regular basis, and his supporters have also shown hostility towards press people during the GOP candidate’s events. Throughout the election, reporters and Trump critics have repeatedly faced anti-semitic blowback from the mogul’s followers. http://www.redstate.com/diary/apkyletexas/2016/03/17/trump-volunteer-white-supremacy-tattoos-pbs-special/ > [@](#): > > PBS News broadcast a special earlier this week on a North Carolina phone bank volunteer who had common white supremacy tattoos on each hand. > > On her right hand was the Celtic cross, symbol of white supremacy master-website “Stormfront”, and typically associated with the slogan “white pride world wide”. > > On her left hand was tattooed “88”, which is the symbol for “Heil Hitler” among Nazis and white supremacists. The letter “h” is the 8th letter, so it is very common for these racists to tattoo “88” for “hh” or “Heil Hitler” on their hands, arms, chests and backs. > > Strangely, the volunteer tried to defend her tattoos in the PBS website comment section by claiming that her family followed “Celtic religious beliefs”. However, that would not explain the “88” Heil Hitler tattoo at all.\* ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/135 "2016-11-19T16:38:19Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’m Texan **and** Jewish, and I hear ya. There are both Texans and Jews who’d get into pissing contests over who hates me more. Or even which has the longer line waiting to throw rocks at me. I’m from NJ, yet I Agree with you, Support you, and Protest Beside you. Trusting can be hard. Seeing common enemies can be pretty simple. All anyone really has to do is open their eyes and LOOK… or… on occasion…? Close their eyes and LISTEN. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/136 "2016-11-19T16:42:43Z")
**Count Blucher** , fleeing down a dim country road, Kinky Friedman and His Texas Jewboys in hot pursuit. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/137 "2016-11-19T17:31:14Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Indeed, you have much to be proud of. You have helped to elevate a shallow, vapid, unstable and ill-tempered child to the most powerful man on the planet. What could possibly go right? How the hell do you pretend to know for whom I voted? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/138 "2016-11-19T18:31:13Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > no offense but the left has been saying this forever, and people see thru it. Its always “people who don’t like gays, blacks, etc. MUST hate Jews.” Its a political manipulation, tho also a way for liberal Jews to feel good about themselves. It’s also true. Can you give me an example of one anti-black organization that didn’t also hate Jews? Because I can’t. Let me tell you something: white racists scare the crap out of me, a lot more than Hamas or Hezbollah or any other of those bush-league losers. You know why? Because unlike you, I know my history, and I know that compared to Arabs, white people are much, \*much \*better at killing Jews. There really is no comparison. Radical Muslims, bless their hearts, they try really hard, but they’re rank amateurs compared to white anti-semites. So yeah, when white bigots start sticking their heads out, I go on alert. As should you, as should everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/139 "2016-11-19T18:41:50Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > How the hell do you pretend to know for whom I voted? Did he say voted? I thought he said helped. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186/140 "2016-11-19T18:53:55Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Did he say voted? I thought he said helped. Ok, helped then. How did I do that? And how would he know? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-we-get-from-here-to-internment-camps/772186.md?page=8)