How were non-smokers seen back in the day*?

I was born in 1967 and when I grew up in the Netherlands there were cigarettes on the table that guests could partake of at nearly every party. Letting it be known that second hand smoke gave you trouble in any way was NOT appreciated, I’ve been ridiculed over that more times than I like to remember (especially by my own mother) and smokers would take my waving away smoke from my face as a reason to actually start blowing smoke in the direction of my face.

So I’m now very glad that smoking has a stigma these days. Because several smokers just don’t want to hear that their habit causes problems for others.

I vaguely remember there’s an old PSA video that hashes out the “benefits” of smoking. I think it even recommended that pregnant women smoke! :eek:

Legendary Wallaby and Reds prop Stan Pilecki was renowned for sucking down a durrie at half time. Rumour has it that he once ran on with a pack in his pocket.

ETA:

On reflection, it might have been his warmup rather than at half time.

I was born in 1959, and I dispute the claim that there was no hassling of non-smokers.

During college, I worked on some labor crews composed of blue collar men in their 30’s and up. There was a reasonable amount of hazing “kids”, and this could include admonishments to non-smokers, blowing smoke in our faces, etc.

I also hung around with a counter-cultural “head” clique, almost all of whom smoked. The hassling here consisted more of pointed debates on these “lies” that were spread about the supposed risks of smoking. It was also here that I learned (repeatedly) of the benefits of smoking (increased concentration, weight control, etc.)

I think both settings were ruled by the sheer numbers: there were *very *few non-smokers in either group. (I don’t remember such hassling in other groups with more of a balance between smokers and non-smokers.) Also, in either group, any attempts to avoid second-hand smoke (even discreetly) increased the likelihood of one’s getting hassled.

When I got my first post-college job in 1986, smoking was still widely accepted in the government office where I worked. Not just permitted, but accepted: it was the non-smokers who were considered weird if they wanted to be accommodated. I remember the guy who was assigned to get me my computer accounts and stuff. He sat in a room with two chain smokers, and had a “Thank you for not smoking” sign on his desk. You’d think it would have made sense to put the non-smoker near the door, but he was sandwiched between two chimneys.

Back in the day, smoking was pretty ubiquitous. Our family knew smokers and non-smokers in pretty much equal proportion. Thinking back on my childhood neighborhood (middle class, 1960s), there was roughly an equal split in those households where there was at least one smoker and those that had no smokers. My parents were non-smokers, but smoking friends were not prohibited from lighting up when they were visiting. The only exception was cigars. My mother would simply not tolerate cigar smoking in the house. Cigarettes and pipes were okay.

It wasn’t something that you thought much about; it was just something that some people did and it was pretty much everywhere so you really didn’t notice all that much. I don’t think anyone necessarily looked up, or down, at the activity.

At the time, there were also folks who just smoked socially, like at a party after a drink or several. You never saw them smoke outside of that. There was a neighbor lady who would buy a pack of cigarettes, keep them in the refrigerator, and have maybe one every day or two, and sometimes just on the weekend. Needless to say, a pack lasted quite a while for her.

Lots of smoking in the 70s too and, perhaps to a lesser extent, the 80s. By then, it seemed that lots of smokers quit or were trying to quit.

Depends how ‘back in the day’ you mean; at the English school Eton, during the 17th century, it was reportedly compulsory for students to smoke a pipe every day, as it was believed to ward off the plague.

There comes to mind a memoir by the late authority on sailing-ship matters, Alan Villiers. The author was recounting an Australia – UK commercial run by a sailing ship, on which he was a crew member, in the 1920s. The practice on merchant ships in those days, was that the captain ran what was called a “slop chest” – a store of tobacco, sweets, and other comforts, which he laid in pre-voyage, and sold to the crew, at a small profit to himself, during the voyage.

In this instance the captain, preoccupied with other concerns shortly before departure, forgot all about stocking his slop chest. The standard attitude in those days, was that a sailing-ship captain was God – incapable of error or normal human failings. The captain in this case, would have considered his saying “Damn ! I’ve been a twit,” and and scrambling around, or altering arrrangements, to remedy the slop-chest problem; to be an unacceptable showing of weakness. So they set out for Britain, with no intermediate stops, and very little in the slop chest: the small amount of tobacco which there was, was soon exhausted.

The smokers among the crew thus suffered many very wretched weeks. It happened that Villiers had never taken up smoking – it hadn’t appealed to him. He reflects in the memoir, that observing the misery caused to his shipmates who smoked, made him yet more determined never to get into any kind of “fun product”, which caused that amount of dependency in the user. The smokers, “cold turkey”-afflicted with no choice in the matter, frequently remarked to Villiers and the ship’s other non-tobacco-users, how much they were envying them.

Asking a smoker to put out the butt would earn you a code stare. Smoking was seen as a basic human right. “What’s it to you, buddy?”

I remember going to the drugstore to buy my mother’s cigarettes with no questions asked.

In Canada, I don’t recall exactly when cigarette vending machines disappeared - but if the cashier thought you were too young, find a handy vending machine. Ontario law IIRC said no sales to anyone under 18, but until the late 80’s it was not that big a deal.

the place I worked at allowed smoking at the desk until the early 90’s, and only banned smoking in the lunchroom just before 2000. I remember going into my office, shared with 3 others, who smoked. The area had been carved out of another office and given electric heat but no ventilation other than the door. A weekend of baking used ashtrays did not enhance the smell of the place.

The bosses had always hemm’ed and haw’ed about the decision “people will complain, it’s cold outside…”; there were discussions about ventilation and where exhaust went, who could smell the second-hand smoke… until one cranky new boss simply decided “No smoking in the building”. He didn’t give a damn who complained.

Eventually, they fulfilled my joking prediction - I said someday they’ll paint a semicircle around the doors, and no smoking in the crease. (Hockey joke). Sure enough, a few years later, no smoking within 20 feet of the doors.

But yes, in the 60’s smoking was everywhere. Remember the joke that making an ashtray for mom or dad was a common childhood shop or pottery project?

By the 70’s, they were trying to curtail smoking in some areas - the student lounge in college was “no smoking”, the high school smoking room was turned into the teachers’ lounge and students had to smoke outside the north door. No smoking in residence rooms. No smoking in the lecture rooms. No smoking in the hallways either in some buildings.

I remember seeing a confrontation in a shopping mall in the mid-80’s where some woman was complaining another had brushed her expensive coat with a lit cigarette in passing. Smoking in public areas of a mall seemed normal at the time.

*Alien *(Second movie) came out in the late 80’s, and the attitude had changed enough in the few years it was in development that much of the audience groaned (“Good grief. She’s smoking”)when an opening scene showed Ripley smoking.

When the provinces first started restricting smoking in restaurants, people chimed in that it would destroy the restaurant business. Separate non-smoking areas were established. then they banned smoking - despite predictions, that did not have any impact on the restaurant business. Banning smoking in bars, would of course kill the bar and nightclub business - and did nothing of the kind. I remember bars where by the end of the night, the smoke would sting your eyes. I think a lot of people preferred no smoking. IIRC, smoking had been up to 60% (males) and 40% (females). By the mid-90’s nonsmokers were the majority and there were more women than men smoking.

Born in '55, I don’t recall any negative comments about not smoking. I got a lot of grief about not drinking, but none for not smoking. But then, I never complained about smoke.

IIRC, most of the hype about second-hand smoke, like the hype about drinking while pregnant, is seriously overblown. the only study I saw that confirmed any real danger of second hand smoke was with the wives of Japanese heavy smokers. Confined in a tiny apartment with poor ventilation with a partner who smoked like a chimney did have statistically significant effects on the spouse’s health. But… at those concentrations, you might as well be a smoker.

Evidently a lot of nobodies in the movie Walt & El Grupo.

Blinking in Morse, huh?

My parent’s business involved producing promotional items – at least half of their products were ashtrays. Basically, smoking put my oldest sister through college (by the time I went, the product mix had changed!).

In her 1964 book I Try to Behave Myself, Peg Bracken wrote “And remember, there’s nothing wrong with not smoking. Lots of good people don’t.” Like there was something “off” about non-smokers.

Some golfers still smoke during PGA tournaments. It’s more common among the caddies, but not just them. Of course, golf is not as taxing on the cardio-vascular system as sports like basketball or soccer.

My dad was also a non-smoker and served on a ship during WWII; he notes in his diary at the time that he had a nice little business going by saving up and bartering the cigarettes he was allotted.