How were the pyramids in Egypt built?

What is the typical step height on the Great Pyramid?

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Well so much for getting (stealing) the ideas from others, :slight_smile:

Science does not work in a vacuum, research needs to be published and peer reviewed, the wilful act of ignoring what the experts (that are also the peers that you need to convince) are telling us is only to push for naked pseudo-science and clearly that is what you follow, glad we cleared that up.

That is exactly the message of the Nowhere Man from Yellow Submarine. He was going to end in an ever shrinking circle in his own made up world, never willing to check what others were doing.

But Ringo decided to rescue him :slight_smile: . Really, one has to follow the advice of science writer Peter Hadfield to figure out what is quackery and what is science:

You track the sources, check the sources, learn to identify the good ones.

Science is not just pondering in an armchair and stealing just pieces from irrelevant research, it is also to learn that peer review is not the end of science, but that papers published need to be checked for relevancy, citations that others make of that research. And the “weight” of a journal helps to point to the ones that are making real science and are part of the progress of humanity.

While this other video from Hadfield is about Climate Change, it really applies here since the pseudo scientists in many other subjects also depend on their “feelings”* (nothing more than feelings…) to ignore the evidence.

*Their gut indeed.

Huh? Adding natron to water gives you salty water, not an eruption. Adding it to an acid, like vinegar, will produce some foaming, but only an eruption by the standards of a science fair volcano. There doesn’t seem to be a town named Chemis, though the root of chemistry may be Khem, an ancient name for Egypt. The place was known for its chemists, after all.

I know it’s pointless to ask, but you know this how?

There is no “natural language.” That’s just another hypothesis from the 19th century (you seem stuck in the 19th century) that has been shown to be wrong. There seem to be a few instinctive rules of very basic grammar, but that’s it. A child raised without exposure to language simply grows up without language.

Yes, and they are called elementary school students. Most people graduate from high school having forgotten far more math than the ancient Egyptians ever knew.

I have concluded that you are making no effort to correct your beliefs that are patently false, and that you will insist that the nonsense you preach is true simply because you say it is. You are not engaging in any form of debate. You are just blathering. You have found an audience, and feel that any audience, even a hostile one that will never come around to your way of thinking, is better than none. You are not trolling; you are just a pathetic man craving attention after wasting nine years conjuring nonsense to feel important. Please find another board where you can waste time, both yours and that of your readers.

81’ 3".

The ancients called it “3b3w” and it is ofyten translated “heaven” but I believe “the height” is a better translation. “Heaven” is the vulgar term for “the height”. This heighrt varied by pyramid but they were each five steps defined by the height the water sprayed.

The feminine form of the height is made by adding a “.t”

“3b3w.t” is translated as the goddess “kebehwet”. The feminine principle of 81’ 3" in the ancient language is depth as in depth of water at 81’ 3" which means kebehwet is “the natural phenomenon of pressure at 81’ 3”. This pressure was needed to drive the water through the weirs to fill the counterweights.

The math doesn’t work because the pyramid built on the top step was only about 79’ tall. But each step was exactly 81’ 3".

I had written another long post responding to some of cladking’s more egregious nonsense - linguistic signs are arbitrary, cladking; ancient Egyptian didn’t “directed listeners to the thought that underlay it” in any manner different than modern languages - but I can’t say it any better than dropzone has.

What’s the appropriate hieroglyphic symbol for this argument? A circle?

Slow Moving Vehicle, I had a head start. My dad went to his grave trying to square the circle. :frowning:



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Holy shit! Maybe the ancient aliens guy with the big hair has been right all along! If the ancient Egyptian symbol for that argument is a yellow submarine, well, who taught them out how to build submarines? Who taught them to build them yellow in hue?? the only reasonable answer is…ALIENS!!! :eek:

Well to be honest, you were being a bit of a dink. Maybe you wish you had said something stronger to your dad when he was around but this is a live person who clearly has some mental problems. He’s not pathetic, he’s sick. He’s plunged himself into this minor historic riddle and has convinced himself both that his insight is paradigm shattering and that this riddle has civilization shattering consequences. That is not the sign of a well person. So while I’m sure it was nice to get some things off your chest, you shouldn’t feel too proud about it.

By the way, I spent an afternoon in high school trying to trisect angles with a ruler and compass.

It turns out it can be done, for certain angles. I never did find a general process.

These were CO2 geysers. Shake up a soda bottle and then open it. Or just warm one up a little and drop in a little natron and you see how geysers work.

The water under Giza is still lightly carbonated today but Egyptologists can’t be bothered to do a chemical analysis of it or the half inch of moon dust floating on it. Hawass has said he knows everything there is to know about Giza. This has been the official position for many years; don’t confuse me with facts, my mind is made up.

Just as chemists came from Chemis the elemental symbol for sodium in Na which is short for natron. Natron is a naturally occuring mixture of sodium decahydrate, sodium bicarbonate, and sodium chloride and often has impurities some of which are more sodium compounds. This combined with copper sulfate in the water to make copper hydroxide which is insoluble and turned the water collection device turquoise on the northe side. The siderite in the water came from Egyptian red sandstone and turned the bottom 163’ of the pyramid red. This was one third the height ands ancient reports saiud the bottom third of the pyramid had “water marks”. The bottom third of the heiroglyph for “pyramid” was colored red. The heiroglyph looked like a pyramid that was red at the vbottom. The angle of the pyramid sides is red in the secondary rainbow. The arris angle is red in the primary rainbow. The builders said the water that sprayed up at Giza was “adorned with a rainbow” (sky arc) creayted by the “light scatterer of the sky”.

Of course this is all coincidence and I can’t compete with “they mustta used ramps” and people who know everything.

Sir Isaac Newtoin studied the pyramid and translated a line that might have been inscribed on the sarcophagus lid without realizing the line contained a corroilary to Newton’s third law of motion. One translation of this line suggests that the thing that goes up in the air to build (water) “orders the lights above”. Of course, people can’t believe this because they would have to come to see that I’m not the only person who’s stupid and ignorant because we all are. We just can’t see it from the comfort of our homes.

I spend many many hours at this. I found several ways that pretty much work except on the very fine scale they are actually approximations. I once wrote up a truly beautiful 64 step proof that anything divided by zero equals infinity and it was a very valuable learning experience. Several experts glanced at it and basically just said “isn’t that nice”. Right before I was ready to send it off to reap my reward I found on step 48 that I had assumed the conclusion. I learned people don’t care and I redoubled my efforts to be careful what I believed.

Do you rememnber how they worked for specific angles?

We have a pretty good handle on ancient math. That’s because we still use a lot of it. The stuff we don’t was replaced. Ancient Egyptian math, in particular, was quite well documented and preserved by the Egyptians themselves, meaning it was never really lost in the first place.

The only extent to which anything is “lost” is if some fact might be obscure or not generally taught, because it’s only of interest to historians.

Yeah, it can be done for some angles.

And there is provably no general process. The impossibility of trisection was proven in the 1830s. You can basically turn trisecting 60 degrees into an algebraic problem for which you can show no solutions exist, which means a general trisection can’t exist. Though there are some pretty good approximations.

Linking geometry so directly to algebra was a major breakthrough, actually, and something that eluded “the Ancients” entirely.

Incidentally, all three classic impossible constructions (squaring the circle, doubling the cube, angle trisection) were proven impossible in the 19th century through this linking of abstract algebra to classic geometry.

Well, the simplest example is if an angle is constructible. For example, you can directly construct a 30 degree angle. Therefore, 90 degrees can be trisected quite trivially.

Oh? Then how do you explain the trisected circle encased in a doubled cube sitting on my coffee table in front of me as I type this?

What the gasses? This is a common problem anywhere there is activity associated with volcanism. The geysers had lots of CO2 and hydrogen sulfide and somnetimes it poured down the wadi as evidenced by the fact they built the village far fromn the work site and then put it behind a massive wall. People don’t build infrastructure for looks. This is what everything that is still there is; infrastructure.

2110b. ’Iḫ.t-wt.t, thou art not enveloped by the earth.
2110c. Thy fame is by day; thy fear is by night, as a god, lord of f ear.

“’Iḫ.t-wt.t” is CO2 (risings begetter). It is released by the earth but is merely a topic of learned discussion by day but at night solar heating ceases causing winds to drop and it collects in low lying areas and is fatal to passersby.

722c. Thy foot shall not pass over, thy step shall not stride through,
722d. thou shalt not tread upon the (corpse)-secretion of Osiris.
723a. Thou shalt tiptoe heaven like Śȝḥ (the toe-star); thy soul shall be pointed like Sothis (the pointed-star).

This is the vulgar term for CO2 (efflux of osiris). If you walk through the CO2 you should tip toie and hurry. This is not an admonition to not walk in corpse dripopings as Egyptologists believe. It is a means to survive being in the “Land of Rainbows”.

Well, to put on my pedantic hat, trisecting a circle (360 degrees) is simple since constructing 120 degrees directly is simple.

But my smartass solution would be, “it’s simple if you cheat by using a marked edge”.

I see. Thank you.