♬ And for Pharaoh’s little kiddies I built all the pyramiddies… ♬
Very old theories and explanations based on better evidence than an argument from ignorance like the OP does point to the use of ramps around the Pyramid as an explanation.
New theories, based on new evidence, point at just the bottom level of the pyramids as having a ramp, most of the “levels” likely used an internal ramp and IMHO they used gravity as a way to pull the stones through the internal tunnels. Instead of just muscle to pull or push the stones they had a slopping artificial hill available as they did go up.
Here is the video (scroll down) of the new theory and evidence found so far to support it from the National Geographic
As I see it the bit that is missing is that what I picture needs less men to pull and push the stones, because they could had put counterweights on the side of the growing pyramid to pull the material up with less effort by using ropes connecting the counterweight to the stone, with most of the very hard work done only when the material reached the level that had no pulleys or cranes made yet.
A system like that matches the explanations from Herodotus (450 B.C.) that proposed the use of small, wooden, cranes or levers to lift the blocks when he visited and investigated Egypt.
To get to the other side.
There’s a lot of woo alien stuff about Stongehenge too, and that’s in England.
I’m amused the aliens came down with their vastly superior technology and moved some rocks around. Ooooh! Don’t throw your backs out, guys.
Yeah, like those notorious brown people who had alien assistance building Stone Henge, right?
BTW, the ancient aliens guy with the wild hair DOES think that the Romans and Greeks had alien assistance too. Oh, and Greeks are ‘brown’ as well…so are Italians for that matter.
They must have! How else could they have concrete? Not only that, but their concrete has lasted a couple-thousand years! Name one modern building whose concrete has lasted that long!
They might not have been brown, but by God, they weren’t Anglo-Saxons, and that’s nearly the same thing!
They pyramids kept the tomb robbing industry active for generations. So it was wealth transfer of a kind.
Well, they could also had been time travelers! Have you seen how Stonehenge looked when completed and whole? It was the symbol of what it is holy for the future civilizations…
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Thanks for this post, which actually answers the OP. Fascinating and plausible.
It is amusing when the ‘ancient aliens’ crowd does try to claim more ‘modern’ targets like Baalbek, which they only do so because there were some very big stones used.
Theses are people who are amazed th the Romans were able to move a 300 ton block several hundred meters when they were able to move huge numbers of heavy Egyptian Obelisks to Rome.
Reply no.1 answered the OP.
Sorry. I think it was the all caps that got me.
Those ancient people were so smart. Of course they never built a million miles of freeways or airliners or space shuttles, but they were *so smart! *
This is just such a bizarre premise. “Sure, they may not have had any advanced machinery, electronics, powered engines/motors, any fucking working knowledge of science, the scientific method, or the universe around them, but there’s no way we could replicate them dragging a bunch of big rocks around.”
In fact, we can do it without even using power tools. Levers, pulleys, and ramps are all ancient technology.
So, has anyone determined that the Chrysler Building was actually erected in Manhattan? I think it landed there.
How can you even doubt it? there’s mountains of evidence to determine that it’s at the very least an open question.
The Chrysler building was seen for the first time, allegedly, in 1928. 1928. Have you ever seen a building from the dawn of the previous century? They were clunky squares made of brick and barely taller than a tree, not a gigantic steel structure.
Do you even know of a person who worked there? Because to raise that you would need about a quarter of the population of the East coast, and people died before reaching forty back then, what with all the drinking and smoking. And yet nobody remembers a thing, to my knowledge.
And how was all that steel transported? With horse carriages? And how many Chrysler buildings are there? I’ll tell you: one. Almost a century and nobody has been able to replicate the Chrysler. Open your eyes, people!
If I might ask a more serious question- I had always assumed that the Pyramids were a shitload of stone blocks, all the way to the core. I’ve recently read something that the stone blocks are only on the outside, that within each layer of stones is bunch of rubble. Makes sense to me- put up a square of stones, fill the interior with rubble, build a ramp, put up a slightly smaller square of stones fill interior with rubble, and so on. But I don’t think this is truly known one way or the other. I don’t know much about ground penetrating radar, but is this something we could determine by this or other nondestructive testing? To me, the rubble interior idea makes sense because in squaring off the stone blocks you’re going to make a shitload of debris, why not fill the interior with it?
Excellent points - and how could the iron workers back then even afford to wear work clothes of that era? I’ve seen how much old fashioned leather boots, selvedge denim, and canvas jackets cost-they must have all had a trust fund! And the the wealthier people who would have financed such a building were all doing the Charleston and drinking bathtub gin and champagne at Jay Gatsby’s parties and would have been too hung over to get such a structure made.
I think that pyramids in the new world are rubble cored, but if you mean the Egyptian I don’t believe they are. They use different sized stones and, of course, they have granite interior chambers where the tombs are, but they aren’t rubble filled as far as I know.
As for your question about GPR, yeah, I’m pretty sure that the technology has been used at the pyramids in Giza, since I believe they used them (along with small robots) to explore the famous shafts, as well as look for other entrances/passageways.