I’ll get on Susanna Hoffs right away!
It’s like an onion, new layers keep emerging: the Bible, alchemy…
Well, yes. Is that surprising? It’s kind of the whole point, isn’t it? If you don’t have reliable sources (and let’s be clear, your sources are stunningly unreliable) then you have nothing. You’re not going to get any traction unless you can back up your hypothesis with real, reliable, well documented sources.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while. But it’s still blind. And your sources are still spectacularly unreliable.
I said very early on here that all human history (that didn’t start until the collapse of the ancient language in 2000 BC) was predicated on concepts that originated long ago. This is difficult to understand from modern perspective. Ancient astronomy became astrology. Ancient applied science became religion. Ancient chemistry became alchemy. The list goes on and on. “Poetry” is an attempt to capture the ancient language. When we dream in stage 4 sleep the language center shuts down and we think like ancient people and solve our “everyday” problems. The ancient concepts and vocabulary have never truly left us but they exist in changed form.
Why shouldn’t all of history tie together? Why should there be no truth in the Bible? Just as nobody can be ever wrong about everything and Temple’s camera can’t do his bidding the causes of history are the same forces that shaped ancient man and ancient thought.
The modern belief in human omniscience is the greatest threat to our species. We tinker with the building blocks of life while seeking understanding of what life is and how natural forces operate while believing we know everything. We can’t evenb figure out how to sit down across a bargaining table to hammer out an agreement to quit murdering one another wholesale but we think we know everything.
And before anyone asks, no I’m not a trained neurobiologist 100 years ahead of his time. I don’t really know the speech center shuts down in stage 4 sleep but this is my guess why we wake up with answers. Do I really need to spell out every little thing? A lot of these things are deduced from the interplay of two metaphysics. I can’t prove poetry is an attempt to channel ancient language and it should be obvious this is a guess or an hypothesis based on visceral knowledge. Please don’t ask me to defend things that are outside the scope of showing how the pyramid was built. This I can do. The ideas and logic behind the other stuff are not easily explained.
So, apparently no one is impressed by the interpretation of the Emerald Tablets. :dubious: . I’m not surprised. History splintered with the language.
One of the easiest ways to prove me wrong is just run the tests to show how the pyramid was built. If they didn’t pull stones straight up the side one step at a time then everything I say has no basis. If they did then check for geysers. If there were no geysers then most everything I say means nothing. Even after geysers are proven it won’t necessarily mean we are confused. This will require more study and or more evidence.
We can’t go back and we can’t rebuild the tower but we can mend much of the damage. But it has to start by getting out of the dark ages. It has to start by insisting Egyptoilogists get out of their 19th century rut. It has to start by using modern science in all fields and seeking verifiable answers.
Why won’t they do the science and why don’t people care? I think they are afraid of the truth and they’re afraid of the pyramid. They would rather be seen as anti-science than wrong.
As this thread proves, it’s possible to be both at once.
Well, that was an…interesting…interpretation that to the casual observer appears to have nothing to do with the words. So that’s the sort of knowledge your gut gives you? Mine gives me belches when I drink carbonated water.
But back to the natron. How do you get a geyser by mixing baking soda and common salt with plain water? And capturing water from the tippy top of a geyser of unusually precise height? Or is the geyser pushing the stone up rather than spraying out the sides?
It’s like he’s got a Master’s Degree…in science!
At your request, I won’t follow up on the ancient language stuff, so as not to divert the thread from the pyramids.
I’m just some guy, but your interpretation seemed very forced to me.
Is that even something that can be tested for? Honest question.
If it’s a cold-water geyser and the CO2 has all escaped from the aquifer, can the previous existence of the geyser be tested for?
Oh, and are you affiliated with this site?
Nonsense. Most of my sources are the same ones Egyptologists use. The primary difference is I don’t care in the least about Egyptological opinion. Egytpytological opinion is always based on the belief that ancient people were so stupid they could only have dragged stones to build tombs. These were not tombs. The people weren’t stupid. They had several options for lifting stones. There is no evidence the people never changed.
Egyptologists are often right in a left handed sort of way even though their assumptions are wrong. But the fact remains their assumptions are wrong and it’s rarely beneficial to me to try to figure out just exactly in what way they are right. They believe the mehet weret was a celestial cow who channeled the water in the stars to build the king. This is exactly right except it should be meant literally and they think it’s metaphore. This stuff is rarely of any value to me at all. Sorting out what’s kind of right from what’s completely wrong takes a lot of effort and I gain nothing thereby. So I can’t quote any Egyptologists. If one did agreee with me I’d have to reexamine my beliefs on the subject because I don’t share their premises. Due to the nature of Egyptological beliefs and the evidence it’s highly improbable we can ever agree on anything other than minutia. I can’t evern trust their translation because no two of them agree. There is no agreement at all on the definitions basic terms. Whart cause could I possibly have to cite Reisner’s opinion on the meaning of the ankh? We have fundamental differences. He is wrong and I have shown him ands all the others to be wrong. I not only proven they didn’t “mustta used ramps” but I have shown a far easier method that is actually evidenced. They pulled stones straight up the side one step at a time.
Now I suppose some pundit will want me to link to verification of the last statement.
It’s not my fault that Egyptologists don’t have a clue. When I’m proven right the next guy can link to the proof. In the meantime all I have is evidence and facts. I will defend statements related to building pyramids and sometimes others.
This is always frustrating. No mattrer how I tie it up and put a bow on it, it’s never enough. People always want proof. Well I don’t have no stinkin’ proof. I’ve got all the evidence and all the logic. I’ve ripped the paradigm a new one and shown the emperor has no clothes. And still people think all I have to do is spend a few minutes and google it up. If it’s not on google then it doesn’t exist. This isn’t the way the world works.
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As I looked already, no, they are not what the Egyptologists use. And a few were based on incomplete research, and others not related to what you are trying to demonstrate.
It’s exceedingly difficult to show that CO2 is a solar element to someone who isn’t trying to understand. Even for readers who are trying this is one of the most deeply embedded concepts that I’ve found in the ancient writing. First you need to understand most of the PT.
The closest any line comes to it is;
1502b. Osiris awakes in peace; he who is in Ndi.t awakes in peace.
1503a. His head is lifted up by Re‘; his odour is [as] that of the ’I;.t-wt.t-serpent.
1503b. The head of N. also is lifted up by Re‘; the odour of N. is as that of ’I;.t-wt.t-serpent.
The geyser above the canal awakes.
His head is lifted up by the sun and his odor is that of a CO2 leak.
The king is also lifted by the sun whose odour is the same.
The king is the geyser and they both ascend by means of the “sun”. The king at his appointed time at sunrise and the water because CO2 forces it upward.
The Greeks stole the concept as “fire”.
Ancient language didn’t make what we consider statements. Most all sentences are statements. The meaning in ancient language was in context. So we’llnever find ancient writing that says “water is a lunar element”. They used other means to communicate.
CO2 doesn’t have an odor, for one thing. Snakes do, though. Osiris, being dead, stinks to high Duat.
And (I’ll regret this) what is a “solar element” or a “lunar element?” You aren’t going to bring Humors into this, are you?
The water is cold and CO2 was forced into it at very high pressure. It arrived at Giza saturated in most common compounds especially calcium carbonate. It naturally sprayed and spurted into the air. People needed the water and dug down to try to iuncrease flow. This usually worked so they invented the drillin 3500 BC. This worked spectacularly. To build pyramids they needed the water to be stable and enduring so they invented the djed in which osiris could stand and they added natron to the water to force eruptions.
1024a. His name lives on account of natron-offerings and he is divine.
Even old wells could be forced.
They built the structure around the geyser until they got to the top. Justr as the water collection device defined the height of the pyramid the highest point they could collect water defined the heightof each step. When they got to the top of the water crown they finished the step with a thin course and then started a second step by merely shortening the rope. It was pure genius in its simplicity.
The height of the geyser was called the 3b3w and defined everything they did on the project once they achieved it.
The full line is “The Sun is its father, the moon its mother, the wind hath carried it in its belly, the earth is its nurse”. If it’s talking about subterranean C02 that causes cold-water geysers…how does “the wind hath carried it in its belly” fit?
A few people can smell CO2 and I’m one of them. But they weren’t talking about the smell of CO2 but the smell of the geyser. It had a distinctive odour that varied somewhat dependent on the relative concentrations of gasses. Hydogen sulfide was very common in it;
1790b. how harmful is thine odour, how bad is thine odour, how great is thine odour!
These gasses could kill.
There’s not much chemistry in the PT. This is just a book of ritual so the subject appears only a few times. It’s difficult to deduce their knowledge of the subject by other means. There are a few (confused) mentions in the hermetic texts. I’ve been able to make far more deductions about their physics than their chemistry.
I just don’t know.
What does any of this have to do with the blackness of European royalty?
- To say: Osiris N., take to thyself the odour of the eye of Horus, like the eye of Horus, which he traced by its odour.
Is it really any wonder that Egyptologists don’t know what thew eye of horus is?
1801c. it will collect thy flesh; it will let thy evil sweat flow to the ground.
1802a. Take its odour to thee, that thy odour may be sweet like that of Rē‘,
1802b. when he ascends in the horizon, and the gods of the horizon delight in him.
1803a. O N., the odour of the eye of Horus is upon thee;
I fail to see anything “bizarre” about perfectly ordinary oxide staining. I can take you not 5 minutes from my house to see perfectly natural iron oxide staining on weathered rocks, especially along drainage. And those are the colours we *expect *from oxide staining, not something to express surprise at. Someone clearly is not a geologist.
Hold on now, the ancient Egyptians used seltzer to lift the stones? Was the chief engineer named Moe?
So have you come across this cladking?
I thought you might enjoy it if you hadn’t. It’s about ancient Egyptian man made geysers utilizing CO2 so I thought it’d be up your alley.
Eta: oh. I see Human Action has beaten me to the punch.