We work hard. It seems only fitting we should be able to play easy and rest peacefully.
I just wish we could have a serious discussion and stop all this horusing around.
Thoth a good idea. Let’s astarte now.
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When were there ever 7 reserved keywords in any language?
All of this is irrelevant to your post about language unless you were throwing out that word salad to demonstrate that words can be misused. You had no central thesis as far as I could tell, or if you did it was lost by a poorly organized and unfocused structure. There is no evidence for “metaphysical language”, language doesn’t have “bugs”, and calling god a theory is meaningless. It’s a perfect example of why you’re having a difficult time getting anyone to take you seriously.
Don’t. Seriously. Just don’t. Someone’s going to come along and…
Goddammit. This is why we can’t have nice things.
What does that have to do with this statement?
This is stuff you claim you just learned. From where did you “learn” this? Can you give us a cite for this…or is this yet another “fact” that you “learned” from your own [del]intestines[/del]gut?
He likely got his start with the Tablet of Ahkmenrah
Why so Sirius?
C’mon, guys. These puns are like Niles on a chalkboard.
Thank you very much.
I don’t remember the fortran (iitran) code. But things were much different in those days and I had no proclivity for programming.
No. The fact that there were so few words in the ancient language is consistent with the concept that the language was different. It isn’t logical to assume their thought was less expansive simply because they were primitive. The only reason they had as many words as they did is that many things needed three words.
You are simply stuck in undersytanding the word “god” to mean an “imaginary and powerful consciousness”. There are no gods in your world so when you see the word it becomes evidence of someone else’s superstition.
I’m trying to help you see the meaning in the old language, or failing that, try to get you to understand how meaning was expressed. There was no such thing as “god” in the ancient language. The concept didn’t exist and it is a mistranslation of a word they did actually use; “neter”. This word pretty much could mean “nature” today. But this isn’t what “neter” meant either. Neters were merely words and bnothing else to the ancient. The neters were the natural phenomena they had discovered with observation and logic. We speak of “mechanics”, “optics”, or “hydraulics” but they spoke “shu”, “horus”, or “kebehwet”. This was the way they organized their knowledge. This probably makes the best translation of “neter” (singular) to be “theory” and not “god”. Specific neters were specific theories. Each individual had to understand all these theories and the metaphysical language to even be able to converse. Every time new theory was discovered it was added to the language. Every time new facts were discovered it was added to the name of the physical phenomenon (neter) which represented it. One didn’t need to know all the names of a neter because many were obscure or principly of interest only to experts.
Understanding of reality and of utterances is dependent on perspective so perspective was always defined unless it was standard perspective. Standard perspective sees things from the inside. Modern perspective is from infinite distance like a blue print. As perspective changed in ancient language it was redefined but without the referents and perspective the ancient language looks like nonsense.
I can’t deduce all the grammatical rules from translations so this will be a job for experts. I can’t be certain of things like structure of language from reading translations of the PT. I don’t know if the PT closely reflect everyday speech or whether it is formal speech or possibly even a sort of poetry. For these reasons I can’t really make hard and fast rules about the ancients and how they communicated and studied nature. But many things are painfully obvious. In order to write what they wrote and mean what they did they had to think very very differently from us. The words people choose say a great deal about what they believe and how they think. Simply stated in words anyoine might understand; they thought like they drew pictures. They painted what they saw. They lived as they thought.
If we did the things the ancients said, painted, and did we would be stinky footed bumpkins because these things are outside our way of thinking. But they exactly matched the ancient way of thinking. We are merely misinterpreting every aspect. The ancient way of thinking can’t be put directly into modern words. It can be described. It can be shown. And it can be interpreted but the words can’t be translated. Thinking like an Egyptian is outside the experience of specialists. No doubt many could do it if they tried but who’s trying?
We are misunderstanding our ancestors and then judging them by our standards and misunderstanding. They simply didn’t think like we do and they have been misunderstood since the collapse of the tower of babel hid the meaning of their words. They said osiris was a cool effervescent column of water which stood on the Giza Plateau and off gassed CO2 as “he” built the pyramid. They said this over and over coherently and literally with no grammatical errors. It was said in a language that couldn’t be taken apart withoiut loosing its meaning. It was said in a language that the reader had to know as much science as the writer. It was said in a language that required very few words because words directed rather than said. The words had to be understood because every word had a single meaning and this meaning directed the listener toward the intended meaning much like computer code directs the computer.
It is this reason that humans don’t understand animals so we have to teach them our language. It is this reason that writing was invented in 3200 BC but recorded history doesn’t start until 1200 years later at the collapse of the tower.
None of this is complicated but putting the ancient ideas in modern words is not easy and this goes double since I just haven’t made all that much progress in discovering the grammatical rules. There’s a great deal of work to do and one man can’t even size it all up, much less do it all.
Now if I had a few more centuries I might make a little dent in it.
I’m sure we can if we just Set our minds to it.
When you say “ancient language”, what specific language are you referring to?
When you refer to “the ancients”, which specific people are you referring to, and from what time period?
No, things weren’t that much different in those days. You were wrong about programming languages only using 7 reserved keywords. It’s not true now, it wasn’t true then.
This is unsupported nonsense. You keep throwing stuff like this out there and never support it with anything other than your guesswork. You don’t know linguistics, you admit you don’t understand ancient Egyptian, and you expect people to take these statements as if they mean something.
This doesn’t make enough sense to even be wrong. It’s yet another example of the word salad you keep posting without evidence, defining your terms, or logic. It’s is literally devoid of any meaning.
All humans were pretty much on the exact same page and speaking the same language from the time a mutation caused the advent of complex language until the collapse of the tower of babel. It was 40,000 years of uninterrupted progress and learning.
Perhaps modern language started creeping into everyday speech and it was this that prompted them to invent writing to preserve the knowledge that would be lost without the ancient language. Almost all this writing was in ancient language and it doesn’t survive because it couldn’t be understood after the collapse.
There were “dialects” of the ancient language but with such a small vocabulary even speakers of very different dialects could open communication in short order. These dialects then became distinct languages that drifted ever further apart when language was no longer tied to logic and knowledge.
I just decoded some ancient hieroglyphics found on a stone near the Great Pyramid. So far their meaning has been totally unknown.
Pharoah, Left bird, right bird, left ox, owl, left bird, snake, eye, sun, snake, right bird, cane, right ox
main( ) {
printf(“hello, world”);
}
Yes. I stand corrected.
I’m the only one who does understand ancient Egyptian.
It is a simple fact that there are very very few words in the Pyramid Texts. Each word is used many times. Even words like “effervescent” appears four times. They didn’t have a lot of words but they could direct your attention to a concept in multiple ways.
It is not at all guesswork. It is logic and solving the words and the physical evidence simultaneously. As I deconstructed their words I reverse engineered the pyramids to agree. At every point logic and observation ruled. You could almost say ancient science was rediscovered by a sort of ancient science based on modern science.
Hello world, would be utcha taiu.
chick, drill, vulture, papyrus roll and the plural for land (3x land).
This is not how logic or science works. You have fallen into the fallacy of confirmation bias, where you read vague ancient texts, confabulate them into an imaginary building method, than look for features in the pyramids that support your imagination. That is not science, and it is not logic. It is fantasy.
That’s … rather presumptuous.
Of course, it’s within the realm of possibility, but the point that has repeatedly been made in this thread is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Not just mind games but actual physical evidence that can be confirmed or at least found to be consistent with your ideas.
So far, you haven’t provided anything like that, instead sticking to word salad type games and “just-so” interpretations that aren’t backed by much of anything at all.
Ok, so:
Pharoah, Left bird, right bird, left ox, owl, left bird, snake, chick, drill, vulture, papyrus roll, land, land, land, snake, right bird, cane, right ox