How were the pyramids in Egypt built?

Precisely like your claims!

sigh Wife was claiming the math for hysteresis is bad and may never be corrected because hysteresis, like many things, cannot be described mathematically. I told her to get her ducks in a row before she published because my friends would rip her apart.

Why am I surrounded by cranks?

I could almost take this personally. :rolleyes:

As a generalist this is kind of the way I think. The only difference between me and the ancient Egyptians is their logic was based on natural logic and mine is based on the findings of modern science (to the degree I can understand and manipulate it).

So…

How do you think the first beaver invented habitat building? Do you think they haven’t improved their technology over the centuries.

Do you think the same termite which invented air conditioned cities also invented agriculture? Or do you believe that termites have to be peer reviewed before new discovery can be implemented?

Do you believe animals aren’t conscious? Why did the chicken cross the road?

What do you think it is. Egyptologists agree with me that it’s not a flail it’s not shaped like a flail so what is it? Why does he hold it from underneath rather than by a “handle”.

The hands say “ka” in the ancient language which translates to “life’s work”. The PT very explicitly say the pyramid is the ka of the king. It says it is not his tomb and his tomb is in the sky.

You can’t make this stuff up. It is carved into stone LITERALLY.

Everytime they used the term “eye of horus” you can insert “opening for water” without changing the meaning.

Of course there is. Present a stronger argument for any other means to build. I can literally make a better argument that aliens built it than ANY Egyptologist can make an evidenced based argument for ramps. This isn’t because aliens built the pyramids but because the argument for ramps has no basis. At least with aliens we can imagine levitation rays where it’s pretty hard to even imagine dragging a 2 1/2 ton stone up 500,000 miles of ramp. 20 times around the planet!!! …At an 8% grade.

People in the future wiull think we must be joking.

494a. bring this (boat) to N. Which boat shall I bring to thee, O N.?
494b. Bring to N. that which flies up and alights.

Show me one word the builders said that supports ramps!

Show me any physical evidence for ramps on a great pyramid

Only if they had an evolutionary pressure to change, there is no need for the Beavers to change after they found an optimal solution.

But in context then this leads to the problem that no sooner when humans finished the Great Pyramid they forgot about how to do it, as the internal chambers of the other great pyramids is different and less helpful to have a geyser inside helping to move blocks.

Again, the problem is that when one looks at the plans of the great pyramids, we have to conclude that in less than a generation they forgot about geysers. In other sites that talk about using water a few of the internal chambers in the great pyramid are explained by then being used as a system to control the flow. Problem then is that then almost intermediately they forgot how to use them as the internal chambers in Khefren are smaller and different.

Not really relevant to the issue, but a few seem to be.

To get to Egypt :cool:, surprisingly many historians report that the Chicken was not used in ancient Egypt until the New Kingdom, way after the pyramids in Giza were made.

http://www.egyptianagriculture.com/horticulture.html

Every pyramid had five steps and each step had about 71 degree sides.

You can see these steps in the gravimetric scan of G1;

These steps on G1 were exactly 81 1/4 feet in height as shown in the scan. I could post a picture with the five steps drawnb in but this would be a direct copyright infringement so I won’t. You’ll have to draw your own steps or just try to visualize it which is easy because you can SEE the steps.

These steps were the only way they could build pyramids because they had no other means of lifting stones except to pull them straight up the 71 degree sides one step at a time.

Can you walk me through the math on that please?

You started here by saying that you couldn’t read hieroglyphics. Why are you so sure of the translations when you admit that you have no idea what the writings mean?

Again, watch the linked documentary, the gravimetric team actually showed Houdin another graph with their estimation of what was actually the shape of the internal structure they found, it is an spiral structure that goes up.

Outside the pyramid the documentary showed how there are faint lines that go around the pyramid in about a 7% degree angle.

Thanks to the physical computer graphics the digital team mapped the “notch” chamber that was found in an area were they estimated one of the levers was.

It matched what they expected.

It is also clear that you are still going for the monumental straw man that claims that most egyptologists are insisting on a big huge ramp, that was dropped a long time ago and if the latest theories are correct that is not needed, a smaller and one that was dissembled to the south of the great Pyramid was used only for part of the construction, and there is evidence for it already reported.

As it was the first section of the theorised complete ramp, one can still see the first section now: http://emhotep.net/2011/05/16/locations/lower-egypt/giza-plateau-lower-egypt/from-quarry-to-capstone-transporting-the-blocks-and-megaliths-of-the-great-pyramid-3/

Again, that is not what Bui told Houdin, in the documentary it is clear that Bui (that was with the French team that did the gravimetric scan)calls it a spiral structure, and another member of the gravimetric group did draw what the shape was more likely to be based on other plots, indeed a spiral with right angles going up.

What you did here is to claim that you know better than what the experts are telling us what they really found. Another property that pseudo scientists have.

Ah, yes, I remember. They proposed a RAMP that wound itself up the pyramid.
That is what you see in that scan. It’s not 5 levels, it’ a spiral case.

The average stone on the pyramid weighed about 2 1/2 tons and there are about 2 1/2 million of them. A ramp to reach the top would be about a mile long. The center of gravity of a pyramid is a quarter of the way up. So 2 1/2 million stones times a quarter mile is half a million miles plus. Of course it’s all up hill every inch of the way.

The earth is 25,000 mi in Diameter so half a million miles is 20 times around plus.

Stones simply weren’t dragged up ramps or they’d still be out there working on it every day.

Yep, called it too, cladking still goes for the straw man of the very large and impractical ramp.

And the chickens were still not there to cross that. :slight_smile:

Where did you get the number “2 1/2 million” stones?

Nobody was dragging anything. They simply rolled them up, with pulleys and counterweights to do the heavy lifting.

My ka has engine trouble.
All the kas go when the light turns green.
My ka gets 30 MPG.

My “ka” must be a car.

The Egyptians used the word “ka” to mean “life’s work” which is quite similar to what Egyptologists think it meant. Egyptologists think it meant the exact same thing as the descendents of the pyramid builders think it meant. Let’s just say that the only modern concept that can be plugged into the PT for the word “ka” is “life’s work”. This term works but Egyptologists don’t notivce the later meaning doesn’t quite work because they don’t understand the PT.

They actually believe it is a book of incantation!!! I don’t know where they get this stuff other than the 4000 year old joke book we use for language.

I don’t know! Flinders Petrie estimated it at a measly 2-1/3 million stones.

You didn’t answer my question. I know what biologists believe.

I’m suggesting that language in all animals and in early man reflected the wiring of the brain. This wiring contains the natural logic that the animal uses to think and communicate.

The first beaver to figure it out used simple observation and natural logic. This was then taught to other beavers as language but through demonstration. The behavior is now inate to the brain after many generations. It’s in the very genes but the first beaver had to figure it out without any peer review.

The logic should be pretty simple; aim the biggest trees at the fastest flowing water, rinse and repeat until there’s a nice little den that can be accessed under the water. Home sweet home and not one ramp required. Other animals need ramps, but not beavers and not pyramid builders.

I just wanted to see if he was capable of providing a simple factual cite without referring to either an interpretation of a picture or a feeling from his gut.

Sorry, this is nonsense that does not support what you claim. Some odd photos of cylinders does not magically turn into “drills” because you need them to do so. (And you really think that citing woo master Erdogan Ercivan, with his claims that the ancient Egyptians had measured the speed of light and that their technology was brought here by space aliens is helping your arguments?)