# How will Michael Richard Pence be remembered?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 4, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845 "2020-09-04T23:04:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/1 "2020-09-04T23:04:38Z")

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Personally, I think he will be remembered as a weak-willed suck up that wore his Christianity on his sleeve…but what say you?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/2 "2020-09-04T23:11:57Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Personally, I think he will be remembered as a weak-willed suck up that wore his Christianity on his sleeve…but what say you? -

I hope it’s a lot worse than that.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/3 "2020-09-04T23:15:46Z")

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In the long run Pence will probably be remembered about the same as Henry Wilson, Levi Morton, or Charles Curtis, which is to say he’ll be largely forgotten as are most former Vice Presidents.

Pence has had nothing of particular note to cement a more prominent place in history. He’s had no major policy programs to head up, no significant foreign policy engagement, and no major domestic policy engagement. He has, however, had a role attending the repatriation of the bodies of fallen soldiers much in line with the trope of the VP attending funerals.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/4 "2020-09-04T23:33:43Z")

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I will always remember him (it’s nice to know his middle name is Dick) as the guy that temporarily made it legal and A-OK to discriminate against gay people in Indiana. I will also note for anyone with any backtracking skills that he appeared on Meet The Press at the time and was nothing but a complete unresponsive word dribbling moron about it.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/5 "2020-09-04T23:37:39Z")

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I agree with Iggy, in the long run he won’t be remembered at all.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/6 "2020-09-05T00:39:55Z")

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Not worthy enough to be a bucket of ‘spit’.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/7 "2020-09-05T00:54:26Z")

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The correct answer is:

Who?

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/8 "2020-09-05T01:00:58Z")

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There’s only one VP who didn’t go on to become President that will be remembered forever: Dick Cheney. Not just because he was the _de facto_ President between 2001-2009, but because the fucker will probably never die.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/9 "2020-09-05T01:02:15Z")

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Pence won’t be remembered unless he’s elected president. Vice presidents rarely are. Most people can’t name any who didn’t become president later.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/10 "2020-09-05T01:15:09Z")

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^ Kris Kringle: Who was vice president under John Quincy Adams? Daniel D. Tompkins. I’ll bet your Mr. Sawyer doesn’t know that.

😉

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/11 "2020-09-05T04:47:41Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> There’s only one VP who didn’t go on to become President that will be remembered forever: Dick Cheney. Not just because he was the _de facto_ President between 2001-2009, but because the fucker will probably never die.

He was also a Congressman and Secretary of Defense during Gulf War I as well as being involved in the Nixon and Ford administrations so I think he’d be remembered regardless, especially for Gulf War I.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/12 "2020-09-05T05:34:34Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> The correct answer is:
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> Who?

That was my response. I didn’t know his full name. He never seemed important enough to look up. My initial reaction was that maybe he had a kid or brother with that name.

I wonder how many others know he goes by (a shortened form of) his middle name?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/13 "2020-09-05T05:59:26Z")

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I had to ask myself “who is that?” before I realized the answer.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/14 "2020-09-05T06:37:50Z")

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Did I read somewhere that Trump put him in charge of dealing with Covid? That must be worth more than a footnote.

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/15 "2020-09-05T10:15:51Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Pence won’t be remembered unless he’s elected president. Vice presidents rarely are. Most people can’t name any who didn’t become president later.

oooh… oooh… Spiro Agnew!!! 😃

> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I had to ask myself “who is that?” before I realized the answer.

Same here. It’s early and I’m not fully caffeinated, so maybe I’d have been more with it later in the day.

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**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/16 "2020-09-05T10:40:04Z")

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As a lookalike for Robert Shaw in From Russia With Love.

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Hard to say what his legacy will be since his story is not over yet.  
If he becomes president either upon Trump’s death during the next term or being elected in 2024, his administration could potentially be devastating for minority and LGBTQ rights, and he would be remembered accordingly.

If he and Trump lose in November, he will go down as just one of many sycophantic enablers to the worst president in history.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/18 "2020-09-05T15:02:52Z")

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First gay VP.

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-michael-richard-pence-be-remembered/919845/19 "2020-09-05T16:25:22Z")

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IMHO, Pence will be “remembered” as the American political equivalent of “Joe Who?”

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**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats2)\
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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> First gay VP.

With the possible exception of William Rufus DeVane King, Franklin Pierce’s VP. King has been long rumored to have had a long term affair with James Buchanan, the president before Lincoln.

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