# How will quitting as governor affect Palin's chances. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 2, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051 "2011-06-02T05:13:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/21 "2011-06-02T18:38:42Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I realize you didn’t intend to deceive anybody here, **MPB in Salt Lake** , but for future reference, please don’t alter text inside the quote boxes. My mistake—I thought a line of Palin endorsed enemas would be a natural fit, but it looks like others don’t share my 3rd grade level sense of humor…:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/22 "2011-06-02T19:01:26Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > People quit public office all the time and no one ever says a word about it. They quit to spend more time with their families; because family concerns compel them to earn more than they were making in office; to run for other office; or to accept state or federal political appointments. But they usually don’t quit because people were being too mean to them and they just couldn’t handle it any longer… until they seek a far more difficult public office. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/23 "2011-06-02T20:22:03Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Nah, she’s already the perfect candidate. Any of them who say anything against her are clearly RINOs who are against her people - who are the “real Americans™”. > > The woman can quit as governor and it’s a fucking victory in their eyes. > > -Joe Palin can demonize people all she wants when she’s selling books and doing talk shows. But to get elected she needs 51% of the votes\*. She needs to suck up to the RINOS. \*Plus or minus a few Florida counties. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/24 "2011-06-02T20:23:05Z")
> [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](#): > > My mistake—I thought a line of Palin endorsed enemas would be a natural fit, but it looks like others don’t share my 3rd grade level sense of humor…:smack: Not really. From what I can tell, she’s still full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/25 "2011-06-02T20:43:58Z")
When you run for a state office, you use a lot of money donated from followers.Millions of dollars are given by people who pin their hopes for a better government on her. You use a lot of man hours donated by people who work endlessly without pay. Volunteers man phones, walk up to doors with handouts and push the politicians message every where they go. Then when you quit, you slap them in the face. It is unforgivable. I imagine how disillusioned her staff and followers must have been. It is a major deal breaker and it was wrong.She is a greedy self serving bitch who walked of to make herself rich. Nobody should forgive her. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/26 "2011-06-03T15:47:43Z")
> [@dbx820](#): > > As for quitting, I do not recall a governor resigning for no other reason than to go on a book, speaking and Fox commentator tour. She can couch it in whatever language she wants, but she flat out quit for financial reasons, pure and simple. This is pretty much where I fall. There are plenty of perfectly respectable reasons to leave office, but what she left for- whatever the hell that has been- ain’t it. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/27 "2011-06-03T17:27:29Z")
[http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/06/sarah-palin-badly-mangles-the-story-of-paul-reveres-ride-in-statement/](http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/06/sarah-palin-badly-mangles-the-story-of-paul-reveres-ride-in-statement/) And this is how she speaks. I change my position. She did let down a lot of people who worked for her and for whom promises were made and not kept. But by now they probably realize they dodged a bullet. She is incapable of governing her home, let alone a state or the country. She is a dumb beauty queen with a great belief that the world owes her. Lots of pretty women get that sense of entitlement. But like the old joke, what is 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-. Bo Derek getting older. It is also Palin getting older. ---
**Author:** ![ethelbert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@ethelbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ethelbert)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/28 "2011-06-03T17:51:58Z")
Also, if being “hounded by liberals” is a reason to quit, does she imagine that being President (or candidate) would keep those hounds at bay? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/29 "2011-06-03T18:27:38Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > When you run for a state office, you use a lot of money donated from followers.Millions of dollars are given by people who pin their hopes for a better government on her. You use a lot of man hours donated by people who work endlessly without pay. Volunteers man phones, walk up to doors with handouts and push the politicians message every where they go. > Then when you quit, you slap them in the face. It is unforgivable. I imagine how disillusioned her staff and followers must have been. > It is a major deal breaker and it was wrong.She is a greedy self serving bitch who walked of to make herself rich. Nobody should forgive her. There’s two ways to interpret Palin’s resignation. Either she couldn’t handle the pressure of being Governor of Alaska. Or she quit because somebody made her a better offer and she put her self-interest above that of the people who elected her. I don’t see how either of those are Presidential qualifications. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/30 "2011-06-03T18:33:54Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > [http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/06/sarah-palin-badly-mangles-the-story-of-paul-reveres-ride-in-statement/](http://www.rawstory.com/rawreplay/2011/06/sarah-palin-badly-mangles-the-story-of-paul-reveres-ride-in-statement/) > > And this is how she speaks. I change my position. She did let down a lot of people who worked for her and for whom promises were made and not kept. But by now they probably realize they dodged a bullet. She is incapable of governing her home, let alone a state or the country. She is a dumb beauty queen with a great belief that the world owes her. Lots of pretty women get that sense of entitlement. But like the old joke, what is 10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1-. Bo Derek getting older. It is also Palin getting older. > [@](#): > > "He who warned the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringin’ those bells and, um, makin’ sure as he’s ridin’ his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that were gonna be secure and we were gonna be free. And we were gonna be armed.” Wow. :eek: Anyway, how long do you think it’ll be before she chalks this up to a gotcha questions from the “lamestream media”? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/31 "2011-06-03T18:55:20Z")
> [@ethelbert](#): > > Also, if being “hounded by liberals” is a reason to quit, does she imagine that being President (or candidate) would keep those hounds at bay? When she’s president, she’ll just make being liberal illegal. Easy peasey. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/32 "2011-06-03T19:59:56Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > There’s two ways to interpret Palin’s resignation. Either she couldn’t handle the pressure of being Governor of Alaska. Or she quit because somebody made her a better offer and she put her self-interest above that of the people who elected her. > > I don’t see how either of those are Presidential qualifications. Nah, you’re not getting the real reason. It’s because she can’t take America back from the socialist liberals sitting in the governor’s hut in Alaska! She needs to be at the front! Leading the people! Does the Bald Eagle lead from behind? Did Saint Ronnie send GHWB to Berlin to order CommieMcRussianFace to ‘tear down this wall’? Did Jesus send Moses to kick Egypt’s ass in 1969? No! He did it himself! To VICTORY!!! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/33 "2011-06-04T02:04:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Outrage over Palin’s leaving office is just political bullshit, kind of like Obama’s birth certificate - it’s simply an attempt to exploit what is perceived as a weakness. If she were a Democrat you guys wouldn’t be saying a word about it and the nation’s conservatives would be all up in arms. Palin quit because of some combination of being unable to handle the pressure and going for a blatant money grab. If she can’t handle the pressure of being the governor of America’s easiest state, there’s no way she can handle the pressure of being president, so this should factor into someone’s willingness to vote for her for that office. The idea that this is an irrelevant issue, and that it’s the equivelant of Obama’s birth certification which is an entirely fictitious issue with no basis in reality at all only cooked up by hateful crazies, and that anyone who doesn’t acknowledge this is a hypocrite, is… I’d say below your usual fare, but that would be generous. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/34 "2011-06-04T02:05:29Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Does the Bald Eagle lead from behind? Did Saint Ronnie send GHWB to Berlin to order CommieMcRussianFace to ‘tear down this wall’? Did Jesus send Moses to kick Egypt’s ass in 1969? Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/35 "2011-06-04T02:41:45Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Palin quit because of some combination of being unable to handle the pressure and going for a blatant money grab. If she can’t handle the pressure of being the governor of America’s easiest state, there’s no way she can handle the pressure of being president, so this should factor into someone’s willingness to vote for her for that office. I’ll agree that in part Palin quit in order to capitalize on the income she would make after doing so. I also think she quit in part to capitalize on her popularity and ability to coalesce and motivate conservative voters. I also think you couldn’t possibly know that Palin quit because she couldn’t handle the pressure. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > The idea that this is an irrelevant issue, and that it’s the equivelant of Obama’s birth certification which is an entirely fictitious issue with no basis in reality at all only cooked up by hateful crazies, and that anyone who doesn’t acknowledge this is a hypocrite, is… I’d say below your usual fare, but that would be generous. I didn’t say they were equivalent in nature, I said that they were equivalent in that they illustrate political opportunism. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/36 "2011-06-04T02:51:08Z")
Well, if the best you’ve got is essentially “both sides are equal, people on the right make up hateful conspiracy theories that have absolutely no basis in reality, whereas people on the left think less of a person who abandons their office to chase network tv contracts”, well done. Equivelence demonstrated. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/37 "2011-06-04T04:03:20Z")
When Palin quit, she let down a hell of a lot of people who worked for her. That distills down to selfish money grabbing bitch, who did not give a crap about the people who helped her win. She did not care about Alaska, since she won by saying she would make it a better place and help it. Then she left for a bigger pay check. What does she care about? Getting rich. She is not a public servant trying to do the right thing. She does not care about her voters. She abandoned them with ease. She left her constituents in her dust. Her actions are inexcusable. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/38 "2011-06-04T04:06:58Z")
In other words, the perfect Republican. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/39 "2011-06-04T04:28:36Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I didn’t say they were equivalent in nature, I said that they were equivalent in that they illustrate political opportunism. Roughly the equivalence of getting shot and shooting somebody. Resigning from office is something Sarah Palin did. The birth certificate controversy was something that was done to Barack Obama. One illustrates the character of the politician. The other illustrates the character of the politician’s opponents. Now feel free to misconstrue this post and claim I accused Sarah Palin of shooting Barack Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2011, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051/40 "2011-06-04T06:07:38Z")
If you guys want to keep up that line of attack, splitting hairs over which instance of political opportunism is more valid than the other and so forth, then knock yourselves out. The fact remains that in politics, anytime there appears to be vulnerability on the other side, that vulnerabilty will be exploited for all its worth. And no one, including most certainly Democrats, stops first to consider whether that exploitation meets some sort of benchmark for legitimacy. Now with regard to Palin’s allegedly shortchanging voters who counted on her, I would imagine that most of the conservatives in Alaska who voted for Palin for governor are quite happy that she’s out and about in the country rallying people to the conservative cause. As I said in the beginning, the likelihood is that most of the people who are outraged over her quitting are people who wouldn’t have voted for her in the first place. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-quitting-as-governor-affect-palins-chances/584051.md?page=3)