# How will Tebow fall?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 28, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654 "2011-12-28T19:14:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/41 "2011-12-30T21:31:13Z")

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The biggest scandal I can imagine Tebow getting caught up in is a divorce. Even that seems unlikely.

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**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/42 "2011-12-30T22:29:30Z")

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> [@mkecane](#):
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> Because he went to Florida, presumably…or maybe that’s just me.

Right there with you buddy! Go Dawgs!

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/43 "2011-12-31T02:53:58Z")

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> [@Theophane](#):
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> If Tebow doesn’t fall, someone will make him fall. Someone will trip him.

For a loss of 5 on first down! :mad:

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/44 "2011-12-31T03:06:04Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> I really don’t think that he will. Did Kurt Warner ever have a public disgrace? I think they’re similar guys.

Yes, on the Superbowl XLIII on national television, horrible pass intercepted on the touchdown line, returned by Pittsburgh 100 yards, Steelers won…

Hey, you didn’t specify what kind of public disgrace!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/45 "2011-12-31T04:35:22Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Yes, on the Superbowl XLIII on national television, horrible pass intercepted on the touchdown line, returned by Pittsburgh 100 yards, Steelers won…

You know…Harrison may be a thug on the field, but that was still a hell of a play.

Yeah, I’m kind of surprised that **Theophane** thinks Tebow was a high school bully. Doesn’t seem the type.

If he is the sort of guy to have bullied kids in school, he deserves all the scorn we can heap on him (and hasn’t gotten enough on any of the threads devoted to him).

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/46 "2011-12-31T16:59:55Z")

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> [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](#):
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> After Tebow’s fairytale wedding to Lindsay Vonn, things start to break down fairly quickly…

…when he is caught sneaking around with Julia Mancuso!

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/47 "2011-12-31T20:04:44Z")

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He won’t, in all likelihood because\*\* he simply won’t be in the public eye long enough for it to matter.\*\*

It’s neat that he’s won a bunch of games and that Denver has cleverly used his strengths in a way that has taken their opponents by surprise, but the surprise will wear off and Tebow just doesn’t throw well enough to be an NFL quarterback; even the passing success he’s had has been absurdly lucky. His career as a starter will be over in 3-4 years, tops, and he doesn’t throw well enough to play in the CFL, so that’ll be it. He’ll hang around as a backup for a few years, but people don’t notice backups. As he’s uncommonly reckless and rush-dependent, he’s also even likelier than the usual QB to get injured.

As he doesn’t strike me as an unusually bright young man, coaching is likely not in his future. He’ll quietly retire at 30 years old, largely forgotten, and go into civvie life. If he ever screws up it’ll probably be when he’s a preacher or a salesman or something.

ETA: Of course, someone could wise up and, when he fails as a QB, make him a running back, thereby extending his career.

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/48 "2011-12-31T21:53:54Z")

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I highly doubt Tim Tebow was much of a high school bully at all. Brown noser and teacher’s pet, maybe. Pushy with his religious beliefs, probably. Picking on weaker kids, no way.

I may disagree with his beliefs and how he parades them around, but I really believe that he is unfailingly sincere about them. Being a bully would run directly counter to those beliefs.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/49 "2011-12-31T22:00:35Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> He won’t, in all likelihood because\*\* he simply won’t be in the public eye long enough for it to matter.\*\*
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> He’ll quietly retire at 30 years old, largely forgotten, and go into civvie life. If he ever screws up it’ll probably be when he’s a preacher or a salesman or something.

I disagree, because I think Tebowmania is strong enough to push him into politics.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/50 "2011-12-31T22:15:36Z")

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> [@DxZero](#):
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> I highly doubt Tim Tebow was much of a high school bully at all. Brown noser and teacher’s pet, maybe. Pushy with his religious beliefs, probably. Picking on weaker kids, no way.
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> I may disagree with his beliefs and how he parades them around, but I really believe that he is unfailingly sincere about them. Being a bully would run directly counter to those beliefs.

It’s kind of hard to be a school bully when you’re homeschooled.

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/51 "2011-12-31T22:17:35Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> It’s kind of hard to be a school bully when you’re homeschooled.

Wow…I knew that. And I completely forgot it.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/52 "2011-12-31T23:06:26Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> I disagree, because I think Tebowmania is strong enough to push him into politics.

Whenever someone says that about an athlete it never happens.

Even if it’s his bag, and I really doubt it, Tebow will be out of football long before he’s old enough to be a serious politician. It’s one thing to be a veteran of 15 years with a string of awards and championships retiring at 40. That could could turn into a politician. Tebow will retire at 30, after two years of not playing, with no awards or championships, and nobody will care about him anymore.

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/53 "2011-12-31T23:45:46Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> It’s kind of hard to be a school bully when you’re homeschooled.

Homeschooled kids aren’t in solitary confinement. In fact

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> Tebow played quarterback for Nease High School in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida and was ranked among the top quarterback prospects in the nation as a high school senior.[2]

This is from his wiki page. He could have easily been a high school bully and with his background it was likely LGBT kids not necessarily weak ones he victimized.

I still kinda doubt it because I’ve never heard anything like that about him but it’s possible and Theophane hasn’t revealed his sources so who knows?

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2011, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/54 "2011-12-31T23:53:19Z")

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> [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](#):
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> Homeschooled kids aren’t in solitary confinement. In fact
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> This is from his wiki page. He could have easily been a high school bully and with his background it was likely LGBT kids not necessarily weak ones he victimized.
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> I still kinda doubt it because I’ve never heard anything like that about him but it’s possible and Theophane hasn’t revealed his sources so who knows?

Yes, he went after school was out to practices and games.

Oh, well, it is a nice theory with a complete lack of evidence. Maybe Timmy got bullied by his linemen and the LGBT kids?

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/55 "2012-01-01T00:38:11Z")

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> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#):
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> Yes, he went after school was out to practices and games.
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> Oh, well, it is a nice theory with a complete lack of evidence. Maybe Timmy got bullied by his linemen and the LGBT kids?

Maybe, but that’s still no excuse for him to go bullying other kids.

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/56 "2012-01-01T00:46:24Z")

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Think there’s a lot of openly LGBT kids hanging around the football field?

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/57 "2012-01-01T00:55:22Z")

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> [@DxZero](#):
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> Think there’s a lot of openly LGBT kids hanging around the football field?

Some might be in the band. Others surely would be at the games, at parties, at the mall, in his neighborhood, in friends neighborhoods etc. It’s been a long time since I was in high school but surely things haven’t changed that much. I knew lots of kids at 2 or 3 other high schools in my town that I never saw in school but I would run into in other places. Home school kids aren’t kept in a cage and only let loose on friday nights. Jeez.

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/58 "2012-01-01T01:00:20Z")

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> [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](#):
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> Some might be in the band. Others surely would be at the games, at parties, at the mall, in his neighborhood, in friends neighborhoods etc. It’s been a long time since I was in high school but surely things haven’t changed that much. I knew lots of kids at 2 or 3 other high schools in my town that I never saw in school but I would run into in other places. Home school kids aren’t kept in a cage and only let loose on friday nights. Jeez.

Yeah, but Tim Tebow might have been the one kept in the cage, so to speak. I’m sure his parents limited his interactions with people not of a similar mindset as they were. I just don’t know if he got a lot of opportunity to socialize with either non-evangelicals or non-football players.

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**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/59 "2012-01-01T03:07:26Z")

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People, please! Pay attention…

> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Yeah, I’m kind of surprised that **Theophane** thinks Tebow was a high school bully. Doesn’t seem the type.

> [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](#):
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> This is from his wiki page. He could have easily been a high school bully and with his background it was likely LGBT kids not necessarily weak ones he victimized.
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> I still kinda doubt it because I’ve never heard anything like that about him but it’s possible and Theophane hasn’t revealed his sources so who knows?

Y’know, let’s look at what it was that **Theophane** wrote:

> [@Theophane](#):
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> Because they envy him. And because they were probably bullied by **guys like him** back in high school.

(emphasis added)

Notice, that **Theophane** ’s exact words are NOT accusing _Tim Tebow_ specifically of having been a bully. But rather he seems to be using him as exemplar of some sort of “type”. The statement is to the effect that the Tebow-haters are motivated by envy “_ **probably** _” combined with having been bullied by some “popular jock” type. Which ironically seems to convey a feeling or belief that a religious “popular jock” somehow is the most probable profile for a bully. Me, I’m going to go with that **Theophane** does NOT have any info about bullying by Tebow, he just threw the wastematter out there and _we’re_ letting it stick.

As mentioned all along the thread, of course, people do often fall into the presumption that anyone and everyone with a prominent image of piety or righteousness has got to be some sort of clay-footed phony who is due for eventual comeuppance. But really, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar - and a preachy believer is just a preachy believer.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-tebow-fall/607654/60 "2012-01-01T07:42:51Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> I think the closest we’ll ever get to a Tebow fall is if he marries a woman of “ill repute” like an actress known for her raunchy roles or a bikini/nude model. The media will jump on him then.

Hey, Katy Perry might be ready to go back to clean-cut Christian boys.

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