# How will the Tea Party spin the CT shooting?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [December 15, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098 "2012-12-15T07:26:29Z")
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### Author:  [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/1 "2012-12-15T07:26:29Z")
IMO they will find a tasteless, completely inappropriate take on it, and run with it. What do Dopers think that take will be?
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### Author:  [@DataX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataX)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/2 "2012-12-15T07:30:06Z")
Connecticut has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the US.
The killings took place in Conneticut.
Therefore, less restrictive gun laws are needed.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/3 "2012-12-15T07:43:31Z")
Just wondering here: do we need to care what the Tea Party spin on the shooting is?
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### Author:  [@Untoward\_Parable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Untoward_Parable)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/4 "2012-12-15T07:44:03Z")
It was an Obama conspiracy, he wants public sympathy to take all the guns away and to sterilize republicans.
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### Author:  [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/5 "2012-12-15T07:56:22Z")
**Marley** -Yes, because they have hijacked the opposition party in this country.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/6 "2012-12-15T07:57:37Z")
> [@etv78](#):
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> **Marley** -Yes, because they have hijacked the opposition party in this country.
Are you talking about what they think about gun control or what they think about the actual shooting?
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### Author:  [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/7 "2012-12-15T08:02:21Z")
The two are intimately linked IMO. Their feelings about the shooting will inform the policies they advocate.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/8 "2012-12-15T08:09:30Z")
I’m going to guess most of them think the shooting is tragic, and they’ll support the same policies they did before (which is true of just about everyone).
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### Author:  [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/9 "2012-12-15T08:18:54Z")
> [@Marley23](#):
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> I’m going to guess most of them think the shooting is tragic, and they’ll support the same policies they did before (which is true of just about everyone).
Have these mass shootings ever led anybody to change their minds about anything, I wonder?
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### Author:  [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/10 "2012-12-15T08:22:09Z")
> [@Marley23](#):
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> I’m going to guess most of them think the shooting is tragic, and they’ll support the same policies they did before (which is true of just about everyone).
This, unfortunatley, I agree with. I just believe the Right will become more militantly pro-gun.
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### Author:  [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/11 "2012-12-15T08:29:31Z")
> [@etv78](#):
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> I just believe the Right will become more militantly pro-gun.
“More” and “the same” mean different things. I don’t see either side adopting a new position here.
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/12 "2012-12-15T08:32:53Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Have these mass shootings ever led anybody to change their minds about anything, I wonder?
Possibly the people who were shot, though that’s only a guess.
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### Author:  [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/13 "2012-12-15T08:40:53Z")
They’re waiting for Obama to take a stance on it. Once he does, they’ll know that they believe the exact opposite of whatever he says on the matter.
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### Author:  [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/14 "2012-12-15T08:47:36Z")
He’s already proclaimed it a tragedy, so they’re probably getting party favors together to celebrate it.
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### Author:  [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/15 "2012-12-15T08:56:35Z")
The crazies are already saying that [Obama was silent on union violence but immediately reacted to the shootings](http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=45993). Because tyranny, I suppose.
You know, that guy who got punched in the nose. _Union violence_.
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### Author:  [@dexter8459](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dexter8459)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/16 "2012-12-15T12:03:00Z")
> [@etv78](#):
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> IMO they will find a tasteless, completely inappropriate take on it, and run with it. What do Dopers think that take will be?
Reaction in the past to this sort of horror is that it goes to show that there aren’t _enough_ guns out there. If others had been armed they could have shot the murderer and saved lives. Consider that there are about 290,000,000 legally purchased guns in the country already. Has anyone got a verifiable story where someone stepped up during a gun spree and did that?
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/17 "2012-12-15T12:27:47Z")
> [@dexter8459](#):
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> Reaction in the past to this sort of horror is that it goes to show that there aren’t _enough_ guns out there. If others had been armed they could have shot the murderer and saved lives. Consider that there are about 290,000,000 legally purchased guns in the country already. Has anyone got a verifiable story where someone stepped up during a gun spree and did that?
There were a couple of incidents linked in one of the threads but I don’t remember which one.
The problem with that concept is despite the number of guns, very few gun owners are licensed to carry concealed.
Getting a permit is not easy to impossible depending on your location and carrying involves quite a bit of trouble and expense beyond the cost of the gun.
Also, few CCW are thinking of stopping a rampage but are carrying for personal protection.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/18 "2012-12-15T12:38:47Z")
Here’s one of the posts I was thinking of.
> [@How can we better prevent school shootings?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-can-we-better-prevent-school-shootings/644051/164):
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> [Colorado Springs, Co](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Colorado_YWAM_and_New_Life_shootings)
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/19 "2012-12-15T13:11:52Z")
Found this [analysis of shootings](http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31/auditing-shooting-rampage-statistics/) stopped by civilians vs. police.
I can’t vouch for his methodology but there seem to be enough incidents to draw conclusions.
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> The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by police is 14.3
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> The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a civilian is 2.3.
What’s interesting is that in 10 of the 15 incidents stooped by civilians, they were unarmed.
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### Author:  [@Tarwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tarwater)
#### Post date: [December 15, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-the-tea-party-spin-the-ct-shooting/644098/20 "2012-12-15T15:19:57Z")
> [@runner pat](#):
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> Found this [analysis of shootings](http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31/auditing-shooting-rampage-statistics/) stopped by civilians vs. police.
> I can’t vouch for his methodology but there seem to be enough incidents to draw conclusions.
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> What’s interesting is that in 10 of the 15 incidents stooped by civilians, they were unarmed.
Most meaningless article of the year.
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