# How will this be enforced? (judge orders Trump administration to abide by his restraining order)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [February 10, 2025, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147 "2025-02-10T19:57:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/21 "2025-02-10T23:11:52Z")

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It’s the executive branch. The only check on a lawless executive branch is impeachment and removal by Congress.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/22 "2025-02-10T23:14:57Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> And we’ve already seen it fail, twice. There’s no reason to think they’ll finally do the right thing now.

I’m sure Susan Collins will show her ‘concerned’ face before declaring that Trump will have certainly learned his lesson ‘this time’.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/23 "2025-02-10T23:16:28Z")

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The US Marshalls which report to AG Pam Bondi.

So, you know, buckle up.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/24 "2025-02-10T23:19:50Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> More like rule of law is more or less out the window.

So we’ll officially be a dictatorship?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/25 "2025-02-10T23:31:25Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> The US Marshalls which report to AG Pam Bondi.

Arrest her, then, if it comes to that.

Which it won’t, because Republicans have spent too long trying to gain control over the judiciary only to render them powerless now.

And they really don’t want to empower Democratic politicians to just start ignoring courts when it suits them.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/26 "2025-02-10T23:39:00Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Arrest her, then, if it comes to that.

Who, do you imagine, would do that?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/27 "2025-02-10T23:43:40Z")

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Literally any law enforcement officer the court orders to execute its order.

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**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/28 "2025-02-10T23:46:51Z")

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You really need to read up the chain of command here.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/29 "2025-02-11T00:20:59Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> The US Marshalls which report to AG Pam Bondi.

The US Marshals Service has only one ‘l’ in the name, unless you are referring to the discount apparel and home finishings chain that Pam Bondi became the CEO of yesterday. Which honestly wouldn’t surprise me at this point.

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> Literally any law enforcement officer the court orders to execute its order.

No, a court cannot just arbitrarily direct “any law enforcement officer” to execute an order. Federal courts actually have very prescribed powers outside of the domain of the courtroom and are ultimately dependent upon the executive branch to enforce decisions, subpoenas, and other law enforcement actions.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/30 "2025-02-11T00:21:57Z")

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Wow, cool, thanks for that.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/31 "2025-02-11T00:31:42Z")

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I just rewatched _Justified_ and it was actually a plot point in an episode, so it sticks in my mind.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/32 "2025-02-11T01:08:18Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> So we’ll officially be a dictatorship?

Trump repeatedly said he would be a day one dictator. Supposedly that was just for one day. But [much he promised for that day one](https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/trump-offered-a-bountiful-batch-of-campaign-promises-that-come-due-on-day-1/) dictatorship, notably the mass deportations, has not yet been executed. So when I call him a dictator, I am just pointing out what he has said he would be, and is.

Will it be a long dictatorship? I hope not. But I think that’s our current form of government is a not yet fully consolidated dictatorship. The failure to fully abode by court orders is consistent with this.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/33 "2025-02-11T01:09:25Z")

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> [@Zoobi](#):
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> It’s the executive branch. The only check on a lawless executive branch is impeachment and removal by Congress.

Practically speaking, there are the following:

1. Impeachment
2. Loss of funding from Congress
3. The 2nd Amendment
4. Secession
5. State actions (arresting people, seizing Federal properties, withholding money, etc.)
6. Supreme Court decisions in favor of numbers 4 and 5.
7. Military coup

Not to say that most of these are recommended. Really, if you look at that list, you could also say that it’s to the President’s benefit to keep impeachment as the key remedy.

Of course, Trump might be okay with items 2, 4, and 5 so long as it didn’t impact him.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/34 "2025-02-11T01:16:54Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Literally any law enforcement officer the court orders to execute its order.

Is this a serious statement because if it is, it’s laughable. Which law enforcement officers do you imagine report to and are controlled by the courts?

(Hint: There aren’t any.)

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/35 "2025-02-11T01:18:08Z")

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Your items 3 through 7 are not in any way Constitutional “checks” on executive overreach; they are literally a breakdown of government and lawful authority despite what your SovCits, self-trained “libertarian lawyers”, and “states’ rights” advocates may have told you.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/36 "2025-02-11T01:23:24Z")

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The Framers initiated and executed a Revolution against their own government, and Jefferson was cheering for genocides in France. I’d strongly hold that the Constitution was written with unmentioned checks of those nature in mind.

To be clear, I’m not advocating for any of this. I’m wildly wildly hoping that we don’t get anywhere into the zone of political disorder, chaos, nor violence.

My hope is that the current government wrecks the economy enough (still ouch), that Congress gains popular support to impeach the guy and then reviews itself to eliminate all of the rules and laws that tie Congress’ hands so tightly to popular support.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/37 "2025-02-11T01:26:41Z")

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> **[United States Marshals Service](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marshals_Service)**
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> The United States Marshals Service (USMS) is a federal law enforcement agency in the United States. The Marshals Service serves as the enforcement and security arm of the U.S. federal judiciary, and it is an agency of the U.S. Department of Justice and operates under the direction of the U.S. Attorney General. U.S. Marshals are the original U.S. federal law enforcement officers, created by the Judiciary Act of 1789 during the presidency of George Washington as the "Office of the United Stat The...

But, as previously stated, Bondi is incredibly corrupt and Trump’s toadie.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/38 "2025-02-11T01:33:32Z")

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Bondi will shut it down if the SCOTUS actually upholds anything stopping Trump. As your quote from Wiki says the Marshals Service is “ **an agency of the U.S. Department of Justice** and **operates under the direction of the U.S. Attorney General.** ”

I added the quote and bolding not for you SK but for any posters who think DJT can’t get away with anything illegal because “reasons”. The reality is that he may be able to get away with it all.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/39 "2025-02-11T01:40:11Z")

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Yes, but you mocked Smapti because you believed a thing that’s completely wrong. At least mock the right thing.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-this-be-enforced-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-abide-by-his-restraining-order/1014147/40 "2025-02-11T01:41:39Z")

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Addendum to the previous:

1. The 25th Amendment

It remains to be seen that people like Linda McMahon or Pam Bondi really want to see their home country fall apart… And all effectively for no reason.

The basis for basically all turmoil in the USA is that our TV and news media champions it, for ratings, thinking of politics as just another sport in the lineup like football and hockey.

Team Trump are liable to keep playing the game so long as they’re winning cheers from their home region and having fun going on rampage. But, there’s also going to come that moment where they realize that the thing their rampaging is just their own country and their own home.

The cabinet may turn out to be the most likely location that this all ends.

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