# How will Trump upstage Hillary during the DNC? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 22, 2016, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561 "2016-07-22T05:36:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/21 "2016-07-27T16:41:25Z")
_Everyone_ is revising their speeches right now. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/22 "2016-07-27T16:43:30Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Well, I guess the answer to this was: Openly invite Russia to conduct cyberattacks and espionage against the United States. > > Wouldn’t have guessed that one. … and to state that "I think you (Russians) will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.” Nice. Would that be FoxNews who will pay the Russians directly? Is what Trump said even legal? Can I openly encourage a third party to commit a crime, and then say that they’d be “rewarded mightily”? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/23 "2016-07-27T16:44:42Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Somewhere, Biden is frantically revising tonight’s speech. [nitpick]I think “hurriedly” would be a better word. “Frantically” conveys a sense of panic or desperation. I think “excitedly” would work well. :)[/nitpick] ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/24 "2016-07-27T16:44:47Z")
Whether it’s legal or not, prosecuting Trump would be a terrible political move. It would turn him into a free speech martyr. Just keep attacking, and he’ll do what Trump does – never back down. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/25 "2016-07-27T16:49:31Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > [nitpick]I think “hurriedly” would be a better word. “Frantically” conveys a sense of panic or desperation. I think “excitedly” would work well. :)[/nitpick] I can see Obama, Kaine, and Biden steepling their fingers while muttering “Excellent” like Montgomery Burns. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/26 "2016-07-27T16:55:42Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I can see Obama, Kaine, and Biden steepling their fingers while muttering “Excellent” like Montgomery Burns. I was picturing one of them as Ice-T from New Jack City: [“I want to give this speech so bad my dick’s hard.”](https://youtu.be/5r-aaUQpp7I?t=47s) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/27 "2016-07-27T16:56:41Z")
I was guessing Biden since I’m guessing he’ll give more of the attack-dog speech. Obama will be talking up Clinton in lofty tones. Kaine I’m not familiar enough with. Liked his VP-intro speech a lot but didn’t see him as someone with a lot of bite. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/28 "2016-07-27T17:01:05Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Well, I guess the answer to this was: Openly invite Russia to conduct cyberattacks and espionage against the United States. [Per the Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/democratic-national-convention-obama-biden-kaine-set-to-tout-clinton-as-commander-in-chief/2016/07/27/afc57884-53e8-11e6-bbf5-957ad17b4385_story.html) > [@](#): > > The real estate mogul sought … to distance himself from allegations that the Russian government hacked into the [DN]to benefit his campaign … . > > “It is so farfetched. It’s so ridiculous. \*\*Honestly I wish I had that power. \*\*I’d love to have that power but Russia has no respect for our country,” Trump said. (emphasis added) :eek: > [@BobLibDem](#): > > I can see Obama, Kaine, and Biden steepling their fingers while muttering “Excellent” like Montgomery Burns. Number one line they’re trying to incorporate: Please proceed, Trumpernor ---
**Author:** ![bengangmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@bengangmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bengangmo)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/29 "2016-07-27T17:06:44Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Well, I guess the answer to this was: Openly invite Russia to conduct cyberattacks and espionage against the United States. > > Wouldn’t have guessed that one. Storm in a thimble compared to other crap he’s said. This one comes off more as sarcasm than anything else…A ridiculous comment to rebut a ridiculous (in his eyes) accusation of Russian hacking. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/30 "2016-07-27T17:42:18Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Storm in a thimble compared to other crap he’s said. > > This one comes off more as sarcasm than anything else…A ridiculous comment to rebut a ridiculous (in his eyes) accusation of Russian hacking. This seems to be the only position that the Trump apologists have now: “He didn’t really mean what he said”. Just keep repeating that line until November. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/31 "2016-07-27T17:49:11Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Storm in a thimble compared to other crap he’s said. > > This one comes off more as sarcasm than anything else…A ridiculous comment to rebut a ridiculous (in his eyes) accusation of Russian hacking. Trump’s spokesman denies he was joking. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/32 "2016-07-27T17:56:03Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Storm in a thimble compared to other crap he’s said. > > This one comes off more as sarcasm than anything else…A ridiculous comment to rebut a ridiculous (in his eyes) accusation of Russian hacking. “Sir, they’re refusing to let us dock.” “They’re WHAT? Admiral, I’d sure like you to bomb that place to hell and back.” “Mister President?” “You heard me: show 'em who’s BOSS! Knock over some BUILDINGS!” “Very well, sir.” “And I can assure you that you’d be rewarded mightily.” “Understood, sir.” “I mean, why even HAVE aircraft carriers, if we’re gonna put up with this crap?” ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/33 "2016-07-27T18:02:31Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Well, I guess the answer to this was: Openly invite Russia to conduct cyberattacks and espionage against the United States. > > Wouldn’t have guessed that one. Say what now? Apparently I tuned him out and missed a doozy. Just when you think he can’t sink any lower… ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/34 "2016-07-27T18:08:05Z")
Oh, Russians, shmushians. He really upstaged the DNC with his comment about stage sets. > [@@realDonaldTrump](#): > > I hate to say it, but the Republican Convention was far more interesting (with a much more beautiful set) than the Democratic Convention! The SETS, mind you! The horror… ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/35 "2016-07-27T21:20:17Z")
> [@bengangmo](#): > > Storm in a thimble compared to other crap he’s said. > > This one comes off more as sarcasm than anything else…A ridiculous comment to rebut a ridiculous (in his eyes) accusation of Russian hacking. I agree. One of the problems in countering Trump is as it was put in a conservative anti-Trump piece I read recently the ‘fainting couch’ the media keeps rolling out as their response to various dumb Trump statements. If Trump opponents convince themselves ‘this is it!’ with this statement, as they have for others before _with better reason_, they are just going to look hysterical and desperate. It’s part of why this guy is so hard to counter: the reactions he provokes. Among irresponsible totally non-sarcastic Trump statements relating to Russia, the recent one about about checking to see first whether the Baltic countries had ‘held up their end’ before coming to their aid in case of Russian aggression, as the US is treaty bound to do with no so such ‘check’, was 10 times more irresponsible than a sarcastic jab about Hillary’s emails (which in reality the Russian security services either already have from when they were on her non-secure home server, or they probably can’t get to now). ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/36 "2016-07-27T21:21:31Z")
Yes, but “here’s footage showing him asking Russia to hack emails” is a lot easier to show people than wording in a treaty. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/37 "2016-07-27T21:27:47Z")
How will Trump upstage Hillary during the DNC? > [@madmonk28](#): > > Release his and Ivanka’s sex tape. Release his and Putin’s sex tape. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/38 "2016-07-27T21:35:00Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Yes, but “here’s footage showing him asking Russia to hack emails” is a lot easier to show people than wording in a treaty. I predict disappointment for people thinking this latest comment will turn into a big problem for Trump, or even a significant ‘straw’ in a pile that will break the camel’s back…at some point, they keep hoping. The Baltics comment made barely ripple it’s true. But people not desperate to stop Trump are going to tend to see this latest as a tempest in a teapot, which it kind of is. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/39 "2016-07-27T21:42:05Z")
I don’t know why people keep arguing that HRC needs a “straw” that will “break backs” _en masse_ or that her supporters are looking for one. It’s the steady drip-drip of constant news and controversy that is breaking Trump, losing him supporters and donors, making his campaign always play catch up. Is this going to “break” him? No, but it will lose him a significant amount of voters. The next controversy will lose him more. And so on. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561/40 "2016-07-27T22:03:03Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > I don’t know why people keep arguing that HRC needs a “straw” that will “break backs” _en masse_ or that her supporters are looking for one. It’s the steady drip-drip of constant news and controversy that is breaking Trump, losing him supporters and donors, making his campaign always play catch up. > > Is this going to “break” him? No, but it will lose him a significant amount of voters. The next controversy will lose him more. And so on. Unless it doesn’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trump-upstage-hillary-during-the-dnc/760561.md?page=3)