# How will Trump's presidency end? (poll as of October 2019) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 3, 2019, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192 "2019-10-03T05:33:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tired_and_Cranky)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/21 "2019-10-03T17:26:19Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I believe that he will resign with a pardon deal from Pence. He will pardon himself before he leaves office, along with every family member and crony in his administration. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/22 "2019-10-03T17:35:05Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Some say his Presidency will end in fire That’s what I’m worried about; the period between November 3, 2020 if Trump loses the election and January 20, 2021 when the new President takes over. Trump will have lost but he’ll still have control of nuclear weapons. And I can’t imagine him accepting defeat quietly. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/23 "2019-10-03T18:20:35Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That’s what I’m worried about; the period between November 3, 2020 if Trump loses the election and January 20, 2021 when the new President takes over. Trump will have lost but he’ll still have control of nuclear weapons. And I can’t imagine him accepting defeat quietly. Sure, but all he’s got is the launch authorization codes. The orders still have to go through the relevant command authorities (i.e. the Pentagon), and to the actual commanders in the field (i.e. the guys near the silos/bomber pilots/sub commanders). All of which can and probably would refuse an unhinged first-strike order as unlawful (military officers are ethically bound to refuse unlawful orders) during that November-January period that you mention. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/24 "2019-10-03T18:52:05Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > You left off “refuses to honor the results of the election/impeachment, and has to be removed from the White House, all the while calling for his faithful to riot.” Though I suppose that might be covered under “Other Answer” > > That’s my guess, at this point. This is my “other” scenario, too. He survives impeachment (perhaps even multiple impeachments) because the Senate but the ongoing revelations destroy his candidacy. Then he spends the next two months foaming at the mouth and has to be forcibly removed from the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/25 "2019-10-03T19:34:07Z")
He just seems so fucking crazy lately. I’m wondering if he won’t be removed via the 25th. The best scenario for the Republicans (and maybe the country) is if he dies in office of natural causes. ---
**Author:** ![Boycott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boycott/32/6741_2.png) [@Boycott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boycott)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/26 "2019-10-03T20:00:54Z")
He loses in 2020. Doesn’t invite President-elect for the transition meeting at the White House. Only media communication is Twitter and calling into Fox News. Leaves the White House to spend Christmas at Mar a Lago and never returns back. On January 20th he skips the inauguration to play golf instead. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/27 "2019-10-03T20:06:35Z")
> [@Renee](#): > > He just seems so fucking crazy lately. I’m wondering if he won’t be removed via the 25th. The best scenario for the Republicans (and maybe the country) is if he dies in office of natural causes. The added bonus would be to watch the MAGA-heads explode with multiple contradictory conspiracy theories. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/28 "2019-10-03T20:07:36Z")
> [@Boycott](#): > > He loses in 2020. Doesn’t invite President-elect for the transition meeting at the White House. Only media communication is Twitter and calling into Fox News. Leaves the White House to spend Christmas at Mar a Lago and never returns back. On January 20th he skips the inauguration to play golf instead. This is very likely. Small possibility he adds some tweets in there about encouraging his supporters to take up arms and kill some “enemies” Larger possibility he leaves a steaming dump in the middle of the Oval office rug. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/29 "2019-10-03T20:08:01Z")
I think he’ll be impeached and acquitted by the senate. At this time I think the odds of Trump winning in 2020 are in the 30-40 percent range, so I’m guessing leaves after the 2020 election. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/30 "2019-10-03T20:10:13Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > You left off “refuses to honor the results of the election/impeachment, and has to be removed from the White House, all the while calling for his faithful to riot.” Though I suppose that might be covered under “Other Answer” > > That’s my guess, at this point. This is what I think, too. It fuels my fantasies to see him physically dislodged from the Oval Office, à la cell extraction style. ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/31 "2019-10-03T20:17:55Z")
I think he either loses in 2020 (and leaves office in due course, with a lot of sulking and sore-loser Tweets, but no serious attempt at a coup), or else other Republicans persuade him to develop a sudden flare-up of bone spurs and resign for “health reasons.” ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/32 "2019-10-03T20:43:35Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > I believe that he will resign with a pardon deal from Pence. > > ETA: I believe that as the election approaches, he will become convinced that his odds are better resigning and taking a pardon than losing and facing trying to pardon himself. I’m thinking impeachment, followed by a pardon deal exit. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/33 "2019-10-03T21:15:58Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I’m thinking impeachment, followed by a pardon deal exit. Thank goodness for state prosecutors and courts who are unbound by federal pardons. ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/34 "2019-10-03T21:44:25Z")
Apoplexy within the next six months, based on what I’ve seen on TV the last few days, coupled with known lifestyle (hamberders, never walking when a golf cart is available, etc.). Pence takes over via 25th and is trounced in 2020 by any Dem nominee. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/35 "2019-10-03T22:41:16Z")
> [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](#): > > He will pardon himself before he leaves office, along with every family member and crony in his administration. As if they won’t carry on criming crimily. Bust them for the crimes they commit post-pardon. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/36 "2019-10-03T22:51:27Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I think he’ll beat the impeachment and stay in office. No President has ever been removed from office and Trump has the Senate and Supreme Court covering for him. > > But I predict he’ll lose the 2020 election. I won’t call it a sure thing though. I’m confident he’ll lose the general election again but he might end up winning the EC vote. Pretty much this. I think the odds are pretty decent that Trump beats impeachment and just as good that he loses the election and that’s what I would bet on if I had to. But I won’t be shocked if he is impeached, nor will I be shocked if he wins re-election. Nor, honestly, if he has a serious heart attack and retires. I still have expectations, but not much shocks me anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/37 "2019-10-03T22:57:08Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump has the Senate and Supreme Court covering for him. I’m not sure how the Supreme Court comes into play. If Trump is impeached, the Senate will either have a 2/3 majority to remove him from office, or it won’t. SCOTUS wouldn’t be involved. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/38 "2019-10-03T23:44:56Z")
I think Trump will be impeached, but not removed from office and then will lose in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/39 "2019-10-04T00:31:46Z")
If he lives so long and is reelected, I predict he will go for a third term. Not constitutional? Since when has that bothered Trump or the modern Republican party? Who will enforce it? But I question whether he will live so long. Whatever happens, he will not go quietly unless it is feet first. The XXVth amendment? Hah, he has surrounded himself with sycophants would never pull the plug. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192/40 "2019-10-04T00:43:51Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > Whatever happens, he will not go quietly . . . A repentant Michael Cohen warned us. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-will-trumps-presidency-end-poll-as-of-october-2019/841192.md?page=3)