# How worried about the election are you? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 1, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514 "2020-11-01T23:58:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/162 "2020-11-03T03:58:48Z")
I’ve already said I’m really worried. Came back to say I’m a mess. I was heartsick in 2016, but as I’d had a gut feeling Trump would win, I wasn’t stunned. Back then I told my devastated friends and relatives that it simply meant we had to put on our armor and re-fight battles we’d won long ago, no matter how tired we were in 2016 or how disheartened. Four years later, I’m exhausted from fighting those battles. I’m disgusted by the crap we’ve had to contend with from Trump and his supporters. I won’t leave the US: even if I did, all I’d gain is distance, as the problems would still distress me. I can’t handle another four years of this shitshow. The 2016 post-election jollying–“Look! The sun is still shining!” “Hey, nothing’s going to change TODAY!” “Maybe it won’t be as bad as we fear!”–will do nothing to improve my outlook or mental health. If Trump wins, it will be confirmation the country I grew up believing in, the country my parents–one conservative, one liberal–loved and fought for, is gone. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/163 "2020-11-03T04:12:57Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Yes, we all know you’re a big fan of minority rule. Run along, the adults are speaking. _ **Moderating** _ Just a note to keep things civil- a remark that a participant is not an adult is not necessary or appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/164 "2020-11-03T05:13:07Z")
I don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it, but apparently the AFL-CIO, who has strongly endorsed Biden, is concerned about Trump’s potential shenanigans and is prepared to take action of Trump tries to interfere with the voting process. Here’s a link to their statement. > **[America’s Labor Movement Will Defend America’s Democracy | AFL-CIO](https://aflcio.org/about/leadership/statements/americas-labor-movement-will-defend-americas-democracy)** > > America’s labor movement is determined and prepared to defend our democracy from anyone who would seek to prevent eligible voters from voting, to prevent our votes from being counted, to prevent the electors we choose from being seated, or to prevent... Here’s a longer article which speculates that they are prepared to call a general strike. It’s clear they’re taking it very seriously. > **[Ready to Strike | Kim Kelly](https://thebaffler.com/working-stiff/ready-to-strike-kelly)** > > Contested election? Organized labor has a plan for that. ETA: I was channel surfing this afternoon and heard the President of the AFL-CIO being interviewed on Fox. His clear and cogent case for Biden and the working man left Cavuto speechless. It’s probably the longest I’ve been able to stomach Fox since election night 2012. If there’s a Biden blowout, I’m so watching Fox, ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/165 "2020-11-03T06:20:32Z")
As a fan of constitutional rule, I assume you voted for Biden? ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/166 "2020-11-03T06:30:40Z")
Now that we’re in the final stretch, I’m getting simultaneously pumped and scared shitless. I just want this to be over. Felt the same way four years ago, and look how _that_ turned out. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/167 "2020-11-03T07:23:30Z")
Biden has swept Dixville Notch. So that’s good. > ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/168 "2020-11-03T08:03:20Z")
I haven’t voted yet, but it won’t be for Biden. The political violence this summer combined with too far left economic policy is not to my liking. ---
**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/169 "2020-11-03T08:47:50Z")
There’s been far left economic policy? Where? ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/170 "2020-11-03T09:18:34Z")
Europe. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/171 "2020-11-03T09:23:15Z")
“Far-left” is a matter of perspective. California is the “East Coast” when you’re standing in Guam. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/172 "2020-11-03T09:41:02Z")
Right, and when one party literally marches with nazis, everyone else looks like Trotsky. ---
**Author:** ![Malden\_Capell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malden_capell/32/5274_2.png) [@Malden\_Capell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malden_Capell)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/173 "2020-11-03T09:42:08Z")
As if the GOP has been the pinnacle of economic responsibility this past decade. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/174 "2020-11-03T09:57:10Z")
No they don’t, not to any rational person. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/175 "2020-11-03T10:30:02Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I haven’t voted yet, but it won’t be for Biden. The political violence this summer combined with too far left economic policy is not to my liking. Don’t be stupid, be a schmartie, come and join the Nazi party! You’d fit right in, they’re obsessed with nonexistent lefties, too. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/176 "2020-11-03T10:51:06Z")
Ah, there’s the rub. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/177 "2020-11-03T11:22:32Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > He isn’t just getting help from Putin, he’s increasingly behaving like an American version of him. True, though maybe at this moment, Trump’s best bet is to just get help from Putin. That gives him the plausible deniability that was so useful during the Mueller investigation. If there are huge electrical black-outs in key battleground state counties, or some pivotal county voting system gets hacked, or whatever, Trump can just say that Iran did it, or that Democratic Party elves did it, or that Hunter Biden did it, and then claim that the whole election is invalid for that reason. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/178 "2020-11-03T13:02:09Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Biden has swept Dixville Notch. So that’s good. We should call New Hampshire for Biden now and stop the late voting in the rest of the state which is probably fraudulent. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/179 "2020-11-03T13:32:54Z")
Hmm, but turnout was down precipitously — a 37% decline from 2016. That could be a leading indicator that Democratic enthusiasm is not as high as many pollsters predicted, or that Mabel and her kids were visiting her sister over in Burlington. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/180 "2020-11-03T13:36:04Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > > [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > > > Biden has swept Dixville Notch. So that’s good. > > We should call New Hampshire for Biden now and stop the late voting in the rest of the state which is probably fraudulent. But neighboring Millsfield, NH, went to trump 16-5. Panic time!! ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514/181 "2020-11-03T13:38:17Z")
There are also signs that turnout in some minority communities are not necessarily at Obama levels, either. Maybe better than Hillary, but not at 2012/2008 levels. I still think Biden wins, but this race could be closer than we think. PSA: Get the hell out and vote people - make sure your friends vote. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-worried-about-the-election-are-you/924514.md?page=10)