# How would a Hillary presidency be different from Obama's

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 22, 2015, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844 "2015-07-22T02:38:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/21 "2015-07-22T14:51:18Z")

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I hope Hillary does a better job than Obama of taking everybody’s guns away.

And after that, we’re gonna take away all your motorcycles!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/22 "2015-07-22T15:03:23Z")

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I wish Hillary would take to wearing head scarves so the wingnuts will think she’s Muslim.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/23 "2015-07-22T16:05:43Z")

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The fact that Clinton will largely continue Obama’s domestic agenda is why I expect to vote for her in the general election.

I predict that she won’t unwind Obamacare (and perhaps will push for some important reform, like a public option); she will continue to keep relations open with Cuba and negotiations going with Iran (two fronts I strongly support); she will respect state rights with regard to marijuana legislation; she will support science; she will acknowledge global warming; she won’t push for a reckless tax cut or unfunded mandate; and she will appoint sensible judges. The economy will continue to improve, no major worldwide conflicts will erupt, and bitter old white dudes will continue to complain about getting their “country back”.

How will it be different? The snark directed at her will be tinged differently than the snark directed at Obama. Rush Limbaugh will replay old episodes from the 1990s and nobody will notice. And the GOP (plausibly convinced that she’s corruptible) will waste millions trying to concoct the next Watergate.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/24 "2015-07-22T16:56:40Z")

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And the Benghazi hearings will continue, right up until her re-election.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/25 "2015-07-22T17:16:33Z")

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You mean until the end of her second term.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/26 "2015-07-22T18:25:13Z")

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There would be no point to it then. They’ll focus on the Michelle/Chelsea ticket for 2024 instead.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/27 "2015-07-22T20:19:00Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Everyone’s right so far!
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> But seriously, she’ll work better with Republicans. She built far more relationships during her time in the Senate…  
> She will also be more hawkish. According to every book I’ve read, plus media accounts of OBama’s first term, she was always the most hawkish voice in the room. The Libya war was hers more than anyone else in that administration. Her language on Iran has also been the most unyielding, although she’s trying hard not to undermine the President. …  
> I think there will be more competence, fewer executive department failures. Not so much because she has executive experience, she doesn’t, but she spent eight years inside an administration that actually made government efficiency and performance a priority and I can’t imagine that she’d ignore that now. Plus, like her husband, she wants activist government to actually work. Poor government performance undermines public support for activist government.
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> So that’s all the good stuff. HOw about the bad stuff? We’ll get more spin, less honesty, about as much empathy as Bush 41 could muster up if not less when the country is hurting, and transparency is going to take another few steps back.
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> All in all though, I think she’ll be the best President since her husband. Which is a very low bar to clear, given that the last two Presidents have not enjoyed much public confidence. I also see a similar trajectory for her approval ratings throughout her Presidency. She’ll probably enjoy low favorables but high job performance ratings, pretty much the opposite of GWB and Obama. She’ll be respected but not liked.

What’s crazy is that this is more or less (minus the jabs at the current President) what I think. :eek:

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/28 "2015-07-22T20:30:38Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> T  
> Reagan left office with a 60% approval rating.
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> .

At this point in his terms, he had 49, with Obama @ 46. The average for Presidents at this point is 47%. So, Obama is a tad below average and Reagan, but so small it’s covered by the +/- error. So, one can say Obama has _just about the same_ approval rating as Reagan.

To compare:  
GWB= 30.  
Clinton=60  
RR=49  
LBJ=47  
Ike=61  
Truman=29 😕

> **[Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama](https://news.gallup.com/poll/116479/barack-obama-presidential-job-approval.aspx)**
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> Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/29 "2015-07-22T20:34:14Z")

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So their faces are going on Mt. Rushmore side by side?

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/30 "2015-07-22T21:48:25Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> I agree with this assessment.

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> What’s crazy is that this is more or less (minus the jabs at the current President) what I think. :eek:

Yeah, right??

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-a-hillary-presidency-be-different-from-obamas/725844/31 "2015-07-22T23:20:38Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> So their faces are going on Mt. Rushmore side by side?

There isn’t room. We’ll have to scrape off Washington and Lincoln.

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