How would mankind organise a future cull

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Simple…put the CCP in charge of the world and it will happen, no problem. And people won’t say shit about it, apparently. Look at all of the myriad threads on China’s concentration camps in north western China…

To be really sure, though, you are going to probably have to resurrect Mao (and perhaps Stalin and Pol Pot for good measure…hell, get Maduro in on the action and maybe resurrect Chavez too.), but I think putting a communist system in place will guarantee your ‘cull’ fairly well.

(of course, the question itself is ridiculous and needless…it won’t be done because it won’t have too)

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This reminded me of an Isaac Asimov story form the 70’s called the Winnowing. The Winnowing - Wikipedia

Spoiler : The scientist who discovers a disease that would selectively kill human beings, administers it to the “international team appointed to select who will die and who will not”. Next he kills himself taking the secret with him.

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Famines, wars and diseases don’t make much impact on the population in the present era. To reduce population we need to improve living standards all over the world, implementing the so-called ‘demographic transition’. This has reduced the rate of population growth in every continent except Africa, where the standard of living is still pretty dire.

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Since the OP says “organize” a cull, I would guess that he doesn’t mean things like war, famine or things that arise naturally - but rather is referring to a very deliberate population control or extermination program. Something with plenty of planning and thought, not random or spontaneous.

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This, and what Bryan Ekers said. Widespread improved education (especially for girls/women), and improved access to birth control (or mandated). It will trim population within a generation without the need for violence or trauma.

There is no possible way to “organize” a cull of humanity, because those being culled would resist. I suppose you could fall back to “those with the best weapons get to decide.”

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Because of the man made aspect!!!

Earthquakes, hurricanes and tornadoes have historically not been man made. (Although we are starting to amp all 3 up. Look at a historical quake map of Oklahoma.)

People have lived in India for quite some time without a long term heat wave culling. That’s going to change. And it’s due to people. And it would have been preventable but is probably too late now.

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That’s not true of most wars. It’s true of the wars the US has fought since about 1990, but those are the exceptions. And then it was only the US that tried real hard to minimize collateral damage.

We can call it Social Darwinism…
If we wanted to reduce population without direct killing (under whatever name), we could force sterilize a very large percentage of the female population. By large percentage, I mean about 85 or 90%, maybe more. Attrition (people dying of old age, accidents, disease) would then start reducing the population since there would be little in the way of replacement.

Or we could try the Screwfly Solution…

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I’m going to guess Nigeria - https://www.populationpyramid.net/nigeria/2017/
Nigeria’s trend is to double its population to almost 400M by 2050, and close to 1B by 2100.

By contrast, India’s population growth seems to be levelling off. https://www.populationpyramid.net/india/2017/
Asia as a whole is about 4.5B and projected to peak at 5B

For comparisons, check Russia and Japan on that website. Most developed countries are heading for a levelling and serious decline in population. This is a side-effect of a society where children are less of a financial asset and more of a burden; plus women’s lib allows women to have a greater say in reproduction.

But current world population is pushing 8 billion and projections (that website) say 10 billion by the end of the century. Where will all those people go? Even India and Indonesia are levelling off. Only the African continent seems to be into uncontrolled growth. What’s its carrying capacity? Will they have the money to institute a green revolution to feed that many people? perhaps we’re seeing the initial side-effects of this problem in the Mediterranean lately.

As the saying goes: “If things can’t keep going on this way - they won’t.”

OTOH, what’s the projection for climate change? A limiting factor in Africa is that there is no water, agriculture can be marginal in most areas. Almost all the rainfall occurs in a matter of two months. Will climate change mean a wetter Africa and India, or a drier one?

Finally, for human action culls, rather than relying on Mother Nature - the problem with the world is that nobody’s in charge. Therefore, the most likely action will be each country thinking - the neighbours are a pest, and have nice land. What can we do to expand that-a-way? An alternative is action at a distance, where North America or China concludes the tropical jungle areas far to the south would better help the climate recover if they were deserted jungles. It’s the mechanism that’s the problem - disease always risks coming home to roost. Causing crop failure means floods of desperate people washing up on your shores. Perhaps some sort of mass sterilization would be effective with less disruption (Handmaid’s Tale, anyone?), but again - how? Any biological warfare has the boomerang factor, plus retaliation. Maybe embargo the country from modern supplies like oil and gas - but that requires the whole world to gang up on someone. North Korea has demonstrated that’s easier said than done.

Finally, there’s the moral factor. The gas chambers were allegedly developed by the Nazis because there were complaints from the regular troops that they signed up to fight for the fatherland, not to shoot women an children into mass graves as the marched across eastern Europe. You know that in regimented troops in authoritarian Germany the complaints must have been pretty loud for the high command to sit up and notice. Even then, they did not tell their general public what they were up to. I cannot imagine any advanced country making it an official policy that they were going to murder every man, woman and child in a particular ethnic group or neighbouring country, and not facing internal and external objections.

it would certainly have to be a very different time.

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My thinking

The question was based on the premise that over population has reached such proportions, for whatever reason, that a cull is the only remaining option for humanity to survive.

Government agencies will cooperate in secret to achieve this after centuries of inaction and pulling back at the last moment.

There will be a period of intense disinformation and denial.

It will be done in secret and a followed by even more disinformation. The only hope is that in the future a safe and painless and quick death will be awaiting the unlucky ones. Perhaps if things have gotten so bad, it may even be voluntary.

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Like how 40% of the US Population will be culled by the rising ocean levels ? (https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/sealevel.html)

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I suspect there may be some fairly mass, unauthorized culling coming.

Genetic engineering is becoming cheap and easy to do. The information base is growing quickly. Some markers in the code make it possible to broadly target some people more than others. There are state and other entities with the money and reasons to do it.

I read a novel decades ago, that proposed it. I believe it was called “The White Plague”? It did not refer to ethnicity, but visible effects of those who had the plague. The target was actually gender. The villain wanted to kill all females. Not due to hatred of females, but due to his wife and daughter being killed. So he wanted all to feel that loss. And to snuff out humanity too.

Genetic warfare/terrorism/vengeance, is very frightening. It could already be happening, but maybe tailored to delay symptoms/onset for a long period of time. Many infected and doomed. But not visible.

I think you might actually want to keep very current with immunizations etc. Maybe your state is also inoculating their population against their weapons?

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No response to breaking epidemics, other than qurantining air travel and passengers.

Restrict vaccination efforts to placebos

Stop or severely restrict UN operations and NGO’s , so no peace keepers and no docs without borders and any similar organizations.

No famine relief

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Ha!

Those in the know (as opposed to sheeple) are aware of the Bill Gates/Pharma conspiracy to depopulate the world through vaccination.

That way they can make tons more money.

The logic is impeccable.

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A tax on having children, alongside free state-sponsored birth control and abortion. That would fix whatever overpopulation issue you had within a generation or two.

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I can’t believe people are discussing this seriously.

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If lack of access to vaccines and poor medical treatment and famine and war and epidemics and poverty were enough to depopulate an area, then the Democratic Republic of Congo wouldn’t have a population growth rate almost 4 times higher than the world average.

Humans are weird. In the worst of conditions we have lots of kids, and when things are nice and stable we stop having kids.

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People might not figure that out but A.I. might. A solution to a lot of so-called problems might be A.I. deciding that too many people is the problem.

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Spike illegal drugs with fentanyl. Drug users die at a rate higher than the total number of US deaths in the Vietnam War every year, and there are not hordes of longhairs in the streets &etc.

As a formal action plan, I think it amounts to mass murder and should be rejected. I doubt the current OD crisis is because of some nefarious plot though. The closest you get is if you can show homelessness leads to drug use. In that case, the answer to the OP is “raise the rent”.

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Oh, let’s have some morbid fun with this. Let’s just set aside certain areas as voluntary Libertarian zones with no laws or taxes whatsoever. Those so inclined to this lifestyle may volunteer to live there with one catch: Once you enter the Lawless Zone there is no way out. This is aggressively enforced by the armed forces of the none Libertarian sections of the country where there is an organized government with the power to collect taxes and enforce law.

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People who advocate for mass control of the population (Communists, Fascists, ‘Cullers’) always assume that come the revolution they will be one of of the people holding the clipboards.