# How would you feel about Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan on US currency?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 6, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-feel-about-bill-clinton-or-ronald-reagan-on-us-currency/462373 "2008-09-06T19:18:04Z")\
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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I think all presidents get that distinction eventually, or something similar - I know Carter had one and nobody’s ever going to suggest putting him on money.  
> I think it’s one of those things that would be hard to change because people are so used to it. There can’t be that many Jackson fans out there, but I’m sure a lot of people would start crying politicial correctness if there was an serious effort to get him off the $20.

Carter never got a carrier, he did rightfully get a Submarine being an excellent nuclear Submarine officer. Reagan really deserves the Carrier by any normal standards no matter how much someone might dislike him. He built the most powerful Navy in our history and really pushed the carrier program to unheard of levels. He was a great friend to the US Navy. Possibly 3rd to Theodore Roosevelt and John Adams.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
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Neither deserves to be on money. The next person who should be on currency (and should replace Jackson on the $20, in my opinion) is MLK Jr.

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-feel-about-bill-clinton-or-ronald-reagan-on-us-currency/462373/43 "2008-09-07T01:14:09Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I think it’s one of those things that would be hard to change because people are so used to it. There can’t be that many Jackson fans out there, but I’m sure a lot of people would start crying politicial correctness if there was an serious effort to get him off the $20.

You’re probably right about that. There are an awful lot of people that seem to go nuts over any attempt to change the way we do anything.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-feel-about-bill-clinton-or-ronald-reagan-on-us-currency/462373/44 "2008-09-07T01:20:09Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I think all presidents get that distinction eventually, or something similar - I know Carter had one and nobody’s ever going to suggest putting him on money.

You’re right. I mean, there are only 10 Nimitz-class carriers (none of them named after Carter, by the way) and 43 presidents but fuck it, you’re somehow right. I’m sure of it.

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> Reagan already has a major airport named after him as does George Bush 1.

And because of the George Bush Intercontinental Airport, I think it’s safe to say that there will never be an airport named after George W. Bush. Actually, I don’t expect to see anything named after him, but naming an airport after him would be too confusing.

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**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-feel-about-bill-clinton-or-ronald-reagan-on-us-currency/462373/46 "2008-09-07T01:51:25Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> You’re right. I mean, there are only 10 Nimitz-class carriers (none of them named after Carter, by the way) and 43 presidents but fuck it, you’re somehow right. I’m sure of it.

I assume by “or something similar”, he meant some other major naval vessel. I think someone mentioned that Carter has a nuclear sub named after him. In any regard, thinking that he meant only Nimitz-class carriers is really being deliberately obtuse.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-feel-about-bill-clinton-or-ronald-reagan-on-us-currency/462373/47 "2008-09-07T01:54:32Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> You’re right. I mean, there are only 10 Nimitz-class carriers (none of them named after Carter, by the way) and 43 presidents but fuck it, you’re somehow right. I’m sure of it.

:rolleyes:  
“Or something similar” was meant to offer possibilities other than nuclear powered aircraft carriers.

As has already been made clear I’m not a naval historian. Wikipedia has a list of ships named after Presidents, and that’s got 20 of the 43 Presidents (or 20 of the first 41) covered. I think there may be more that aren’t on the list.

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The next person who should be on currency (and should replace Jackson on the $20, in my opinion) is MLK Jr.

Nahhhh. Either Charlie Parker, or Louis Armstrong.

I’d prefer [Henry “Red” Allen](http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=3KUPcobN-Eg), but those two are much famouser.

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> [@5-HT](#):
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> I assume by “or something similar”, he meant some other major naval vessel. I think someone mentioned that Carter has a nuclear sub named after him.

He did and it was the right move in this case.

The 9 current Nimitz class carriers are  
USS Nimitz (CVN-68)  
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69)  
USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70)  
USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71)  
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72)  
USS George Washington (CVN 73)  
USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74)  
USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75)  
USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76)

USS George H. W. Bush CVN-77 is expected to be commissioned in 2009 or maybe 2010

next up is a new class starting with the USS Gerald Ford (CVN 78)

CV-67 John F. Kennedy was the single carrier of the Kennedy-class and not nuclear. It is already retired.

USS Enterprise (CVN-65) is probably the most famous nuclear carrier and the first.

I think naming one after Ford is questionable and I wish they would honor John Adams for his great contribution to getting the Navy Started. I doubt it will happen.

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> And because of the George Bush Intercontinental Airport, I think it’s safe to say that there will never be an airport named after George W. Bush. Actually, I don’t expect to see anything named after him, but naming an airport after him would be too confusing.

Well, there was an effort to name a [sewage plant](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/02/george-w-bush-sewage-pla_n_94601.html) after him.

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**Post date:** [September 7, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-feel-about-bill-clinton-or-ronald-reagan-on-us-currency/462373/51 "2008-09-07T02:09:41Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> :rolleyes:  
> “Or something similar” was meant to offer possibilities other than nuclear powered aircraft carriers.
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> As has already been made clear I’m not a naval historian. Wikipedia has a list of ships named after Presidents, and that’s got 20 of the 43 Presidents (or 20 of the first 41) covered. I think there may be more that aren’t on the list.

The same comment you made could be made about airports and buildings, so what exactly was your point? That’s what drew my response; not that you aren’t a naval historian (I forgive you for that by default because neither am I.)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
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Or, of course…[god forbid](http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=2pVoTqREQ1w&feature=related)…

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Tesla should be on something.

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> [@SlickRoenick](#):
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> Tesla should be on something.

How about a guided missile cruiser. That would seem very appropriate.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
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> [@Cisco](#):
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> The same comment you made could be made about airports and buildings, so what exactly was your point?

My point was that other presidents had major ships named after them, which was one of the branches of this discussion.

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Reagan is on a postage stamp, too.

[http://www.usps.com/communications/news/stamps/2004/sr04\_077.htm](http://www.usps.com/communications/news/stamps/2004/sr04_077.htm)

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As long as they leave Washington on the 1, and plenty of space on the other bills (makes secret stamping gesture at WheresGeorge04), I don’t care who’s on them. I think it’d be wonderful to have artists and thinkers on our money like other countries have. Cliff Edwards (makes secret fan-stroke gesture at Ukulele Ike) would be a dark horse, but he’d have my vote!

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**Author:** ![as\_u\_wish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6f9a4e/32.png) [@as\_u\_wish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/as_u_wish)\
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I’d like to see Jackson off the $20. “Everyone” seems to like Harry S Truman–let’s let him be on the $20 for a decade or two.

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> [@as\_u\_wish](#):
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> I’d like to see Jackson off the $20. “Everyone” seems to like Harry S Truman–let’s let him be on the $20 for a decade or two.

I’ll take Jackson over Hamilton. At least Jackson knew how to fight a duel. I say put Truman on the $10 bill.

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I’ll take Jackson over Hamilton. At least Jackson knew how to fight a duel. I say put Truman on the $10 bill.

But, Hamilton is really responsible for the US Treasury being a success. He is extremely deserving. Any of his many defaults should be countered by being the United States Secretary of the Treasury and a damn good one.

Why is Jackson on the $20. He created the odious Spoils system of replacing senior bureaucrats with political party members and especially friends.

He caused a Panic which threw the country into a deep depression.

And of course he was the principal mover in the Indian Removal that directly led to such disgraces as the Trail of Tears. Before someone mentions the actual action happened under Van Buren, please recall that Jackson not only signed the Indian Removal Act into law in 1830, he also campaigned for President in both the 1824 and 1828 for the removal of the Native Americans to the west of the Mississippi River.

He was also of course already famous as a cruel and extremely ruthless “Indian Fighter” in his campaign against the Seminoles.

So lets just replace this right bastard with either Teddy or Martin Luther King.

BTW: He had a sub named after him. USS Andrew Jackson (SSBN-619)

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