# How would you handle daily calls to prayer starting at 6 am? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 22, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317 "2015-11-22T23:19:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/61 "2015-11-24T15:11:13Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Because the law expresses the will of the majority as to what constitutes an annoying racket and what is an appropriate hour. > > Be upset if you like. Just don’t expect anything to be done about it. > > Regards, > Shodan I’m not talking about code violation and / or consequences. \*\*Monty \*\*is the one who brought up ordinances in response to **snfaulkner** , whose response I interpreted as being in the actual spirit of the thread: how he’d \*feel \*about it, not what legal recourse he would have. Obviously we can’t change every law we disagree with but that doesn’t stop it from pissing us off. To that end, just because something is legal doesn’t mean it’s not a dick move. Blasting anything at 6 AM is a dick move, whether or not I can stop it. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/62 "2015-11-24T19:27:13Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Not directly. But the azhan is a feature of daily life in most Muslim communities worldwide. To suggest that it maybe does not have a place in an American neighborhood, even in a few places, is to imply that, if we welcome Muslims at all, it is only to the extent that they remain minorities, and not too expressive. > […] > I’m sure no harm is meant, but I catch a whiff of nativism. We do have church bells and the like. More importantly–is there something wrong with a new, imported tradition becoming part of the American fabric in a few places? There is no conflict with core principles here. Some people just don’t like to be awakened, and it can be taken at face value. I am completely on board with that. I have never lived anywhere where there were church bells ringing at that hour every day, so I’m not sure where they do that. I have only heard them in connection with Sunday services. The other facet of such a discussion is the cultural integration aspect. Even if call to prayer were limited to later hours, no doubt some people would still complain about it as annoying, just because it’s foreign to them. People who grew up in Muslim countries probably find it comforting. You like whatever you grow up with. I have been to Egypt about 7 times and personally I never got used to that call to prayer over loudspeakers at the first light. Never really noticed throughout the day but that first one is always jarring. I wouldn’t like it if it started in my own neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2015, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/63 "2015-11-24T23:44:18Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUB](#): > > Blasting anything at 6 AM is a dick move, whether or not I can stop it. This. But also, me playing my music in my house for my own enjoyment and i accidentally leave a window open is one sort of negligent dick move thing. But purposely setting up speakers on the outside of my house for the explicit reason to be heard all over the neighborhood is a super special dick move. I don’t care what time of day. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/64 "2015-11-25T00:06:20Z")
I also have to add/ask, sort of like the call to prayer apps, but not as 21st century, can’t the mosques and/or churches get into at least the 20th century and have a calling list to spam with their nonsense? Just purchase Frink’s AT-5000 autodialer. ---
**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/65 "2015-11-25T00:43:37Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I also have to add/ask, sort of like the call to prayer apps, but not as 21st century, can’t the mosques and/or churches get into at least the 20th century and have a calling list to spam with their nonsense? Just purchase Frink’s AT-5000 autodialer. You don’t understand. They don’t care if their 6 am call to prayer bothers you. Actually IMHO, they _like_ the fact that you are disturbed by their 6 am call to prayer. Maybe you’ll move. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/66 "2015-11-25T00:54:16Z")
> [@Mangosteen](#): > > You don’t understand. They don’t care if their 6 am call to prayer bothers you. Actually IMHO, they _like_ the fact that you are disturbed by their 6 am call to prayer. Maybe you’ll move. That’s what makes it a super special dick move on their part, like I said earlier. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/67 "2015-11-25T00:54:19Z")
> [@Mangosteen](#): > > Actually IMHO, they _like_ the fact that you are disturbed by their 6 am call to prayer. Care to produce any evidence for that despicable statement? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/68 "2015-11-25T01:18:09Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > This is the actual call to prayer in the city mentioned. It’s not nearly as soothing as the Dubai Mall one. It’s tinny and harsh: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oksdM00OSFo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oksdM00OSFo) > > I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I’d not be happy. It’s way too long, \*way \*too early, and way too hard to ignore for me, because it sounds like a person in distress. Even the ambulances that are constantly going down my block (there’s a Senior building and a nursing home half a block from my house) try very hard not to use their sirens that early, which I appreciate. > > But the volume level would definitely influence my feelings. If I can close my windows and it’s not really that audible, fine. I certainly think they should be subject to the local sound ordinance, if there is one. I agree. Meet the local noise ordinance or shut it off (if you can’t tone it down). Doesn’t matter whether it’s a mosque or a popsicle truck. Meet the motherfuucking noise ordinance or turn the motherfucking call to prayer down! ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/69 "2015-11-25T01:21:26Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Care to produce any evidence for that despicable statement? They’re Muslims. Therefore, they’re evil, eat weird food, and want to kill Murikins. Thank God we’ve got brave patriots like [these guys](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/irving-texas-armed-mosque-protest_5651eddfe4b0d4093a581d14) to defend us peace-lovin’, God-fearin’ folk. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/70 "2015-11-25T01:24:22Z")
You call that tinny and harsh? There are some BAD calls to prayer out there, and this is not one of them. If it’s all one big conspiracy to get non-Muslims to move, it’s a spectacularly long running one, and not a particularly effective one. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/71 "2015-11-25T01:39:22Z")
> [@even\_sven](#): > > You call that tinny and harsh? Yes, in comparison with the Dubai mall one posted first. > [@](#): > > There are some BAD calls to prayer out there, and this is not one of them. Okay. So? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/72 "2015-11-25T02:10:37Z")
The entire idea of being called to prayer sticks in my craw. If you are religious, you should not need a whip to tell you to pray. Should not need the Ten Commandments to make you a good person either. It’s pretty clear that that doesn’t work. Bad is bad. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/73 "2015-11-25T02:50:50Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > The entire idea of being called to prayer sticks in my craw. If you are religious, you should not need a whip to tell you to pray. > > Should not need the Ten Commandments to make you a good person either. It’s pretty clear that that doesn’t work. Bad is bad. A Muslim can explain this better than I can, but I’ll give it a shot. The type of prayers being discussed aren’t “have a conversation with God and become a better person” type prayers. They are a set of actions that for whatever reason, God has requested that people do five times a day. It’s a ritual that you are supposed to do because you are supposed to do it, not a personal development project (though it’s supposed to have some positive individual benefits as well.) These rituals are expected to be performed at prescribed moments. These moments are determined by the length of the day, and thus will vary seasonally. In times before people had smart phones (or even watches), the call to prayer served to keep people aware of when the prayer times were. Without it, everyone would have to spend a chunk of the day squinting at the sun trying to figure out what time a prayer was needed. In Muslim communities, prayer times become a part of the way that people structure time in their head, and thus experience the day. Rather than thinking “morning, mid-morning, early afternoon, late afternoon, evening, night” they may think in terms of prayer times and the spaces between them. So while the call to prayer is primariyl religious in nature, it also has a role in daily life as a whole. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/74 "2015-11-25T03:59:02Z")
I’m glad to see **even sven** has a similar take on the quality of the azan - the Dubai one is sweeter but the other one is fine. **Why Not** , a bad call to prayer is when it is done by an elderly person who is apparently going senile or who at the very least has badly compromised vocal cords, except no one has the heart to tell him he sucks. Or when they let a six year old with more enthusiasm than pitch sense give it a try. Or when the loudspeakers are dreadful quality. I’ve lived through all of that and more, but prefer to be tolerant and good-humored rather than nasty about it. Those of you who disdain the sound of the azan remind me of when Bill Clinton wore a batik shirt for APEC and some Murkins nearly had heart attacks because he was wearing clothing they perceived as savage or too casual or something. It was painful to witness, as Indonesian batik is a highly sophisticated art form and the shirt Clinton was wearing represented the best of a long artistic tradition. But no, some people just don’t seem to have any flexibility or adaptability when it comes to unfamiliar things. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/75 "2015-11-25T04:46:01Z")
I really don’t know how to defend myself against the barely articulated accusations of racism here. All I can say is that is not what’s going on here. You’re making this more complicated than it has to be. I’m just as against 6 am church bells, 6 am ice cream trucks and 6 am garbage pickups. 6 am is simply an unacceptable hour for public noise. Period. I don’t care what you’re doing, although I’ll allow that emergency vehicles have to be noisy sometimes because of safety. No one else does. Shut up. Wait until 9 am when I’ve had my coffee and I’m almost human again. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/76 "2015-11-25T05:30:40Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I really don’t know how to defend myself against the barely articulated accusations of racism here. All I can say is that is not what’s going on here. You’re making this more complicated than it has to be. I’m just as against 6 am church bells, 6 am ice cream trucks and 6 am garbage pickups. 6 am is simply an unacceptable hour for public noise. Period. I don’t care what you’re doing, although I’ll allow that emergency vehicles have to be noisy sometimes because of safety. No one else does. Shut up. Wait until 9 am when I’ve had my coffee and I’m almost human again. They follow the same noise ordinances everyone else follows, period. We don’t need to create special rules for the azan that don’t apply to anyone else. How is that complicated? I am not accusing you or anyone else in this thread of “barely articulated” racism. Some people in this thread (not you) are articulately it pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/77 "2015-11-25T05:54:28Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > They follow the same noise ordinances everyone else follows, period. We don’t need to create special rules for the azan that don’t apply to anyone else. How is that complicated? But Carol, that’s \*exactly \*what they did! The rewrote the sound ordinance to allow for this. That’s, literally, creating special rules for the azan, and other religious entities, that don’t apply to anyone else! [http://www.aclumich.org/article/aclu-michigan-hamtramck-noise-ordinance-still-needs-work](http://www.aclumich.org/article/aclu-michigan-hamtramck-noise-ordinance-still-needs-work) > [@](#): > > Bookmark§ 130.053 SPECIFIC PROHIBITIONS. > (A) The following activities are prohibited if they produce clearly audible sound beyond the property line of the property on which they are conducted: > (1) The operation, between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m., of power tools or equipment. > (2) The operation, between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m., of any device for killing, trapping, attracting, or repelling insects or other pests. > (3) The sounding, between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m., of any bell, chime, siren, whistle or similar device, except: > (a) To alert persons to the existence of an emergency, danger or attempted crime; or > (b) As provided in § 130.055(E). > (4) The operation or playing between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. of any radio, television, phonograph, drum or musical instrument. > (5) Construction, repair, remodeling, demolition, drilling or excavation work at any time on Sunday and between 8:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. Monday through Saturday, except as permitted by § 130.055(B). > (6) The operation or use between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. of any loudspeaker, sound amplifier, public address system or similar device used to amplify sounds. > (7) The creation of a loud, unnecessary noise in connection with the loading or unloading of any vehicle or the opening and closing or destruction of bales, boxes, crates, or other containers. > (8) The use of any drums, loud-speakers, musical devices or other instruments or devices for the purpose of attracting attention by the creation of noise to any performance, show or sale or display of merchandise. > (9) A noise nuisance after 10:00 p.m. and before 7:00 a.m. > (B) The prohibitions of this section apply even if the sound level produced by a prohibited activity does not exceed the applicable level specified in § 130.054. > Penalty, see § 130.999 > [@](#): > > Bookmark§ 130.055 LIMITED EXEMPTIONS. > The following limited activities are exempted from the sound level limitations of § 130.054: > (A) Operation of power equipment. Operation, between 7:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m., of power equipment that does not produce a sound level exceeding 90 dB(A) beyond the property line of the property on which the equipment is operated. > (B) Construction, repair, remodeling, demolition, drilling, wood cutting or excavation work. Construction, repair, remodeling, demolition, drilling, wood cutting or excavation work conducted between 7:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. Mondays through Saturdays, except legal holidays, which does not produce a sound level exceeding 105 dB(A) beyond the property line of the property on which the work is being conducted. Also, a person may engage in such activities at his residence between 9:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. on Sundays. > (C) Loud speakers, sound amplifiers, public address systems. Operation or use, for any noncommercial purpose, of any loud-speaker, sound amplifier, public address system, or similar device to amplify spoken words between 7:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. This exemption applies to the use or operation of mechanical loud-speakers on or from motor vehicles only if a specific permit for the activity has been granted by the City Council. The City Council shall cause such a permit to issue when it finds the following: > (1) The applicant has a noncommercial message that cannot be effectively communicated to the public by the other means of communication available. > (2) The applicant will limit the use of the loud-speakers to times, locations and sound levels which will not unreasonably disturb the public peace. > (3) The applicant will not use the equipment in residential areas between 10:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. > (D) Killing, trapping, attracting, or repelling insects or other pests. The operation between 7:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. of any device for killing, trapping, attracting, or repelling insects or other pests which does not produce a sound level exceeding 83 dB(A) beyond the property line of the property on which the device is operated. > (E) Bells or chimes. The use for noncommercial purposes of one or more bells or chimes which does not exceed 90 seconds in duration in an hour. > (F) Carillon playing. Carillon playing between 7:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. > (G) Musical instruments. Playing or practicing with a single musical instrument between 7:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. without electric amplification for not more than one hour a day that does not produce a sound level in excess of 67 dB(A) beyond the property line of the property on which the instrument is used. > **(H) Call to prayer and church bells. The city shall permit “call to prayer,” “church bells” and other reasonable means of announcing religious meetings to be amplified between the hours of 6:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. for duration not to exceed five minutes:** > (1) The city shall have the sole authority to set the level of amplification, provided, however, that no such level shall be enforced until all religious institutions receive notice of the levels; and > (2) All complaints regarding alleged violations of this section shall be filed with the City Clerk and placed on the agenda of the next regular meeting of the City Council. The City Council shall take all appropriate action it deems necessary to alleviate the complaints, with the action to include, but not be limited to, an order to terminate use of amplification. If the City Council deems that the means of announcing religious meetings must be reduced, the Council shall amend this section of the subchapter. The Council may also determine that a complaint is without justification and choose to take no action on the complaint; if the determination is made, the decision shall be made by resolution of the City Council. > (Ord. 2008-2, passed 1-22-2008) [American Legal Publishing](http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Michigan/hamtramck_mi/cityofhamtramckmichigancodeofordinances?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:hamtramck_mi) Bolding mine. Religions are getting a special exemption to the noise ordinance, the only ones allowed to make public noise from 6-7am. That’s, to put it delicately, bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/78 "2015-11-25T06:20:04Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > This is the actual call to prayer in the city mentioned. It’s not nearly as soothing as the Dubai Mall one. It’s tinny and harsh: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oksdM00OSFo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oksdM00OSFo) > > I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I’d not be happy. It’s way too long, \*way \*too early, and way too hard to ignore for me, because it sounds like a person in distress. Even the ambulances that are constantly going down my block (there’s a Senior building and a nursing home half a block from my house) try very hard not to use their sirens that early, which I appreciate. > > But the volume level would definitely influence my feelings. If I can close my windows and it’s not really that audible, fine. I certainly think they should be subject to the local sound ordinance, if there is one. It’s too long, but I’d get used to that. It sounds like chanting to me. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/79 "2015-11-25T06:35:37Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Religions are getting a special exemption to the noise ordinance, the only ones allowed to make public noise from 6-7am. That’s, to put it delicately, bullshit. Is this new? Did they just now create the ordinance because of the azan or has it already been on the books? ETA - sorry, could open your link at first but now it is up. The answer seems to be that it is a NEW ordinance. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317/80 "2015-11-25T06:38:50Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > But Carol, that’s \*exactly \*what they did! The rewrote the sound ordinance to allow for this. That’s, literally, creating special rules for the azan, and other religious entities, that don’t apply to anyone else! [http://www.aclumich.org/article/aclu-michigan-hamtramck-noise-ordinance-still-needs-work](http://www.aclumich.org/article/aclu-michigan-hamtramck-noise-ordinance-still-needs-work) > [American Legal Publishing](http://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/Michigan/hamtramck_mi/cityofhamtramckmichigancodeofordinances?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$vid=amlegal:hamtramck_mi) > Bolding mine. Religions are getting a special exemption to the noise ordinance, the only ones allowed to make public noise from 6-7am. That’s, to put it delicately, bullshit. They seem to have just expanded the church bell exemption. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-handle-daily-calls-to-prayer-starting-at-6-am/738317.md?page=5)