# How would you make a good Terminator movie?

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**Created:** [July 29, 2020, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686 "2020-07-29T05:55:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/21 "2020-07-29T21:40:15Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Numerous terminators from many different futures all interacting. Terminators fighting terminators. Futuristic weapons that were brought back in time. The entire weight of the US military brought to bear! Epic battles! Some places get nuked! It looks like Skynet is going to win/always wins/wins again. And then…

_Into the Terminator-verse_? I’m there.

Haven’t seen Dark Fate yet, but personally, I’d just love to see them somehow pick up where TSCC left off. (a few years later, of course)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/22 "2020-07-29T23:23:01Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> _Into the Terminator-verse_ ? I’m there.

I hadn’t realized I was inspired by that, but YEAH.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/23 "2020-07-29T23:28:10Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> The (in)famous time machine is discovered in some crazy old man’s garage. (Skynet never invented it - they found it. It explains why they never used it properly - Skynet can’t “think” in time travel terms.) The crazy scientist is truly a genius and he figures out what no one else could.

I’m of course picturing Schwarzenegger as Doc Brown.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2020, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/24 "2020-07-29T23:44:13Z")

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Crazy old German scientist is an overdone trope, even if in this case it would be a crazy old Austrian scientist.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/25 "2020-07-30T00:38:35Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I’m of course picturing Schwarzenegger as Doc Brown.

As he is going into the time machine, to kill his younger self: “Ah won’t be baaak!”

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/26 "2020-07-30T02:16:12Z")

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I’m going all in with Aliens - from Independence Day. Skynet (the AI) has to decide what is its actual mission: Protect earth, destroy humans, ALIENS?

A forced cooperation, a three-way free-for-all?

And a giant asteroid, and radioactive monsters 🦖 ❌  
Alright Steve, just calm down, maybe a nap would be good.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/27 "2020-07-30T02:42:58Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> _Into the Terminator-verse_ ? I’m there.

See, I was thinking more along the lines of the Rick and Morty episode with time travel - just terminators rather than snakes.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/28 "2020-07-30T02:53:47Z")

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Terminator vs Predator military procedural set during the battle of Stalingrad.

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**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/29 "2020-07-30T02:58:09Z")

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Instead of sending a Terminator back to kill Sarah Connor, why not have it start a technology company to create itself and take over the world in secret.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/30 "2020-07-30T03:10:29Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> a different (much younger) woman is now the mother of a different child who is destined to stop Skynet

So I guess you didn’t watch Dark Fate then? Because that’s not what happens.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/31 "2020-07-30T03:18:33Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> a different (much younger) woman is now the mother of a different child who is destined to stop Skynet

Also Linda Hamilton was 28 in Terminator. Natalia Reyes was 32 in Dark Fate.

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/32 "2020-07-30T04:44:33Z")

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A huge plot twist at the end.

The machines have always won. The Terminator films are just different re-iterations of The Matrix for humans to live through. Or something along those lines…both films have the same basic plot–Humans vs Artificial Intelligence.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/33 "2020-07-30T05:08:51Z")

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> [@Galactus](#):
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> Instead of sending a Terminator back to kill Sarah Connor, why not have it start a technology company to create itself and take over the world in secret.

[Sorry to Bother You](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorry_to_Bother_You) was a Terminator film?

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/34 "2020-07-30T13:52:09Z")

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> [@Galactus](#):
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> Instead of sending a Terminator back to kill Sarah Connor, why not have it start a technology company to create itself and take over the world in secret.

That’s kind of what happened in the TV show.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/35 "2020-07-30T13:59:00Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> I’m going all in with Aliens - from Independence Day. Skynet (the AI) has to decide what is its actual mission: Protect earth, destroy humans, ALIENS?
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> A forced cooperation, a three-way free-for-all?

I think there was some comic about what would happen if Skynet finally won in the end. They end up going to space and fighting aliens.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/36 "2020-07-30T14:31:40Z")

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It doesn’t really matter what iteration it takes on as long as Udo Kier is in there somehwere.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/37 "2020-07-30T17:35:58Z")

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> [@dorvann](#):
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> The machines have always won. The Terminator films are just different re-iterations of The Matrix for humans to live through. Or something along those lines…both films have the same basic plot–Humans vs Artificial Intelligence.

That was stupid enough in The Matrix. We don’t need another version.

And keep JJ Abrams away from the franchise!

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/38 "2020-07-30T18:03:32Z")

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I haven’t watched them all. Is there one set in the future, with a grizzled old battle-worn John Connor and we see Skynet send Arnie back for T1, and the good guys send him back again for T2 when the melty guy goes back? And we can see how changing the past affects the future. Maybe the continuity changes from episode to episode. A future sci-fi war movie that deals with the paradoxes of time travel and fighting battles in multiple timelines. I’d watch it.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/39 "2020-07-30T18:06:50Z")

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What about something like Asimov’s _Foundation_ series? A secret cabal that could control time was created to save humanity and all the different timelines were their attempts to protect the future. At the risk of being overly complicated you could thrown in _Edge of Tomorrow_ and show the cabal retrying different scenarios until they get it right.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-would-you-make-a-good-terminator-movie/916686/40 "2020-07-30T22:00:56Z")

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Awhile back we had a thread that pointed out that the terminators physical prowess was such that they didn’t need to build it into Arnie. Why not Betty White, or David Hyde Pierce, Christina Ricci’s Wednesday Addams? You could get really creepy.

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