# Howard Dean is insane

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 20, 2004, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312 "2004-01-20T12:55:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/61 "2004-01-21T07:57:51Z")

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> [@Beagle](#):
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> Arrr. Yer notions of insane arrr not much use with scurvy while stuck in the doldrums drinking yerrr own piss. Arrr. Shiver me timbers. Dead men tell no tales. Yo, ho.

Captain Pissgums? Is that you?

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/62 "2004-01-21T08:16:48Z")

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Mayor Fukmyas has done one hell of a job here in Whorelando. Who knew a write-in campaign could be so successful? Arrr.

Dean: Give 'em a broadside, maties! Hoist the spinnacaucus to the mizzenhizzle! We’re in irons. Yank the sheepcrank. Avast ye landlubbers, we got primaries to board.

Parrot: Yearahhh!!!

Dean: We’re off to Barbados, St. Lucia, St. Augustine, Cuba, Jamaica, South Dakota!

Parrot: Yearahhh!!!

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/63 "2004-01-21T08:41:07Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> For the past three years, I knew that my vote in 04 would be “Any idiot but Shrub.” Being the kind of liberal that people like **Brutus** love to hate, I would gladly rather see a trained monkey in the White House than Dumbya serve for another day.

Personally, I wouldn’t even insist that the monkey be trained.

> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> I don’t really see a difference in those two alternatives.

Well, maybe the monkey would be a pawn of the banana industry. But you can’t grow bananas in Alaska, or most of our national forests, so I think the monkey is still the better alternative. Also, flinging poop causes considerably less damage than cruise missiles.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/64 "2004-01-21T09:06:28Z")

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Yeah, just ask aspirin factories in Sudan and Chinese Embassies in Europe how safe cruise missles are. 😉

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/65 "2004-01-21T09:08:25Z")

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I found it on Fox News last night. I figured they would be too gleeful to fail to show it. Might be gone by now though. (this is directed at those who wish to see it, obviously)

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**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/66 "2004-01-21T09:27:37Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Yeah, just ask aspirin factories in Sudan and Chinese Embassies in Europe how safe cruise missles are. 😉

I presume this refers to the fact that Bill Clinton lobbed one or two ill-advised cruise missiles in his day too, yes?

Yeah, I can see where blowing up a couple of innocent buildings compares with overthrowing a whole country on false pretenses…:dubious:

In any case, I reserve the right to dislike Bush on his own merits (or lack thereof) without regard for how he compares to any previous chief executives.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/67 "2004-01-21T11:53:31Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> I would offer you a hearty “fuck off” for that, but I fear you’re right.
> 
> Actually I rather like Kerry. I think he would make a dandy prez. But I think he’s unelectable, and would be more reviled by pubbies than Clinton.

well, better a trained monkey thinking for himself than an oil company puppet ready to lie to the people so he can send his army to war.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/68 "2004-01-21T13:02:51Z")

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> [@Ferrous](#):
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> I presume this refers to the fact that Bill Clinton lobbed one or two ill-advised cruise missiles in his day too, yes?
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> Yeah, I can see where blowing up a couple of innocent buildings compares with overthrowing a whole country on false pretenses…:dubious:
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> In any case, I reserve the right to dislike Bush on his own merits (or lack thereof) without regard for how he compares to any previous chief executives.

A-fuckin-men

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**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/69 "2004-01-21T14:31:50Z")

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Stern was playing the clip again this morning. It’s funny that I keep catching it because I only listen for the radio for a 1/2 hour in the mornings on the way to work and flip channels the whole time.

This time they were playing the clip with a porn soundtrack on with a girl moaning in the background.

**We’re gonna win in Minnesota!**

_Ohhhhh_

**We’re gonna win in Washington!**

_MMMMmmmmmmmmmm! AAAAhhhhhh!_

Definitely funny stuff.

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/70 "2004-01-21T14:40:46Z")

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As a 'Publican spoiler here, I have this to say:

“Yer gonna loooo-ooose! Yer gonna loooo-ooose!”

I appeared in that movie, too. “A League of Their Own”.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/71 "2004-01-21T15:43:58Z")

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> [@Ferrous](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > I would gladly rather see a trained monkey in the White House than Dumbya serve for another day.
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> Personally, I wouldn’t even insist that the monkey be trained.

A Dean supporter, I see. 🙂

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/72 "2004-01-21T15:56:53Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Finally saw the clip on the Daily Show tonight.
> 
> _That’s it?_ That’s Dean being “insane”? That’s the infamous Yeaargh? Okay, he sounded a bit like the Chicken Lady, but the whole thing was massively disappointing.

I had the exact same thought. What was the big deal? Was there something more than the clip that made it to the Daily Show?

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/73 "2004-01-21T16:16:23Z")

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Anyone know the dope on the spanish tirade?

Supposedly right after he did the same thing in spanish screamin “Viva New Mexico”.

I think it was on telemundo or something.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/74 "2004-01-21T16:53:29Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Finally saw the clip on the Daily Show tonight.
> 
> _That’s it?_ That’s Dean being “insane”? That’s the infamous Yeaargh? Okay, he sounded a bit like the Chicken Lady, but the whole thing was massively disappointing.

You know, I thought the same thing. I first heard the speech on Howard Stern on the way to work and thought it sounded hilarious. I couldn’t wait to get home and flip on the FNC, since I figured they would be showing it virtually non-stop. I finally saw it…and was surprised. He gave a rousing speech. So what?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/75 "2004-01-21T16:54:51Z")

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I should probably say that I was surprised because it didn’t seem that out of place to me. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Scarlet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Scarlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlet)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/76 "2004-01-21T17:44:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> You could do what a buddy of mine did. He didn’t like any of the candidates (probably because he was too lazy to do any research), so he filled out the write-in ballot. His vote?
> 
> “Fuck my ass.”

LOL

So he unwittingly cast a vote for shrub 😃

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/77 "2004-01-21T19:56:19Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> A Dean supporter, I see. 🙂

It’s not Dean’s fault if George W. Bush is dumber than an untrained monkey. 😉

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/78 "2004-01-21T20:18:02Z")

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My first thought was that Dean was trying to do his Bjork impression.

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**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2004, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/79 "2004-01-21T20:24:24Z")

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I woke up my husband (the Dean supporter and campaign volunteer as noted in a previous post of mine) this morning by shaking his shoulder and expressing concern that Dean has lost his marbles. This was after NPR ran a bit about the infamous “Yearrrrgh!” speech and then commented on an event in New Hampshire. Apparently, a protester busted out in the crowd, and they had a sound bite of Dean saying seriously into the microphone, “Security! We need security up front!” That was okay, but the corker was when two women in the front row started shouting at him, and he responded by _singing the national anthem at 'em_. I shit you not. The best bit? The rest of the crowd joined in and sang along with him!

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**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2004, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/howard-dean-is-insane/225312/80 "2004-01-22T04:52:59Z")

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> [@Amanita](#):
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> I woke up my husband (the Dean supporter and campaign volunteer as noted in a previous post of mine) this morning by shaking his shoulder and expressing concern that Dean has lost his marbles. This was after NPR ran a bit about the infamous “Yearrrrgh!” speech and then commented on an event in New Hampshire. Apparently, a protester busted out in the crowd, and they had a sound bite of Dean saying seriously into the microphone, “Security! We need security up front!” That was okay, but the corker was when two women in the front row started shouting at him, and he responded by _singing the national anthem at 'em_. I shit you not. The best bit? The rest of the crowd joined in and sang along with him!

I saw a brief clip of this on CNN today. Ol’ Doctor Dean may want to consider self-medicating at this point.

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