# How's Al Franken's Senate bid going? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 12, 2008, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239 "2008-02-12T01:57:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![BlinkingDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@BlinkingDuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlinkingDuck)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1041 "2009-06-19T16:24:37Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > People could get irked, or possibly even peeved. Hey now! Let’s not go overboard. ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1042 "2009-06-25T13:29:09Z")
It’s rumored that the MN Supreme Court will release its opinion today, at 10 a.m. CDT or shortly thereafter: [http://www.courts.state.mn.us/?page=230](http://www.courts.state.mn.us/?page=230) ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1043 "2009-06-25T15:07:50Z")
Nope. The June 25 Opinions are posted, but not the Coleman/Franken case. ---
**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1044 "2009-06-25T15:24:20Z")
To quote **elucidator** : “Grumble, grumble.” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1045 "2009-06-25T15:32:15Z")
It could still theoretically come at any time, but thursday mornings are the normal dump time, so that’s why the press has been geting more antsy on those days. Thursday mornings are starting to make me feel like Charlie Brown checking his mailbox on Valentine’s Day. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1046 "2009-06-25T19:25:28Z")
Damn it, every time this thread is bumped, I get my hopes up. How hard is it to decide that the guy who got more votes is the guy who got elected? ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1047 "2009-06-25T19:36:08Z")
Well, at the risk of creating a cascading storm of rehashing posts, it was apparently beyond the capabilities of the United States’ judicial system in 2000. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1048 "2009-06-25T19:45:35Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Damn it, every time this thread is bumped, I get my hopes up. How hard is it to decide that the guy who got more votes is the guy who got elected? Ask Al Gore. _ETA: Oh, hey, look at me, I re-hashed._ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1049 "2009-06-25T19:54:14Z")
My favorite line of Gore’s: “You know, in politics today, you win some, you lose some, and then there’s that little-known third alternative.” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1050 "2009-06-25T19:54:54Z")
I should have known better than to ask that… ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1051 "2009-06-26T01:26:57Z")
come on guys! already! Pistols at 20 paces, let’s be done with this. ---
**Author:** ![Valgard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/7feea3/32.png) [@Valgard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valgard)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1052 "2009-06-26T01:33:06Z")
> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#): > > come on guys! already! > Pistols at 20 paces, let’s be done with this. Here’s how that’d go: [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zKhEw7nD9C4/hqdefault.jpg "Monty Python-The Black Knight") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1053 "2009-06-26T01:42:28Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > Nope. The June 25 Opinions are posted, but not the Coleman/Franken case. Okay, I may have been born in Minnesota, but I moved away when I was four, and I’m SICK of this Minnesota passive-aggressive, putting it off “because someones feelings might get hurt,” DELAY bullshit. Yes, in Chicago we may be crooked, but it ain’t called “The City That Works” for NUTHIN’! ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1054 "2009-06-26T02:14:08Z")
> [@Valgard](#): > > Here’s how that’d go: > > [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKhEw7nD9C4) 😛 That’s soooooooooooooooooooooo appropos. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1055 "2009-06-26T04:25:51Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > My favorite line of Gore’s: “You know, in politics today, you win some, you lose some, and then there’s that little-known third alternative.” KIRK: “I want that [third option](http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TakeAThirdOption)!” ---
**Author:** ![MeDrewNotYou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@MeDrewNotYou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeDrewNotYou)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1056 "2009-06-26T17:04:14Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Damn it, every time this thread is bumped, I get my hopes up. How hard is it to decide that the guy who got more votes is the guy who got elected? Haha! Made Chronos look at a bump! 🙂 Seriously, though, John Cole at Balloon Juice today [mentions the MSC’s delay.](http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=23228) Nothing really new, but I like the guy and his opinions are usually worth a look. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1057 "2009-06-28T23:37:23Z")
Sunday bump so I hope no one thinks the Supreme Court made a decision on a Sunday afternoon 😛 However, Pawlenty said today that he [0intends to sign off](http://www.politico.com/blogs/politicolive/0609/Pawlenty_wont_delay_if_court_rules_for_Franken.html?showall) on Franken as senator if the Minn. SC decides that way. > [@](#): > > Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-Minn.) said Sunday he has no plans for further delay in certifying the results of the state’s disputed U.S. Senate election so that Republican Norm Coleman can pursue a federal court challenge. > […] > “I’m prepared to sign [the certification] as soon as they give the green light,” Pawlenty said. “I’m not going to defy an order of the Minnesota Supreme Court. That would be a dereliction of my duty." ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1058 "2009-06-28T23:58:12Z")
Notice that he said “an order” I’m afraid that he can say that even if the court supports Franken, that if there is no specific court order telling the governor to sign it that he can still stall this. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1059 "2009-06-29T02:45:05Z")
Well, by now they’ve had enough time to draft an order to order the Governor to sign the certification… or to stand on his head… or to ask for an introduction to Mark Sanford’s Argentine hottie. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239/1060 "2009-06-29T15:59:36Z")
He always uses the order qualifier. He has not said what he would do if the court makes its ruling without including such an order. I do not know if it would be customary to include such an order in a ruling. One would think it would not be necessary. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-al-frankens-senate-bid-going/437239.md?page=54)