# "How's that hopey-changey thing workin' out for ya?" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 1, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563 "2010-04-01T12:18:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/21 "2010-04-01T14:58:40Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Well yesterday I went on Cafe Press for the first time and created my very first t-shirt to respond to this > > [http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/product.aspx?clear=true&number=%20438697479](http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/product.aspx?clear=true&number=%20438697479) > > i have no idea if that link works. I’m still trying to get the hang of Cafe Press’s website because it’s not designed very intuitively. The shirt’s not even in my “shop” yet because I can’t figure out how to move it over there or change the price from the ridiculous $22 down to something more managable for a plain white T. So…yeah. Well done! To the OP’s question: “Purty damn good, little lady, so don’t you worry your purty little head about it.” ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/22 "2010-04-01T15:03:50Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > A much more realistic response would be to say, “Obama and crew have succeeded in fucking the USA with a sandpaper rubber, and it’s only going to get worse.” Well, it’s certainly going to get worse. There will be another Republican President eventually. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/23 "2010-04-01T15:04:12Z")
It’s probably the best one liner of the last five years. Except instead of a dissident blogger chronicling Bush/Obama similarities it actually came from a politician’s mouth. You’re not supposed to pull the curtain back like that. ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/24 "2010-04-01T15:05:39Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Well yesterday I went on Cafe Press for the first time and created my very first t-shirt to respond to this > > [http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/product.aspx?clear=true&number=%20438697479](http://www.cafepress.com/cp/customize/product.aspx?clear=true&number=%20438697479) > > i have no idea if that link works. I’m still trying to get the hang of Cafe Press’s website because it’s not designed very intuitively. The shirt’s not even in my “shop” yet because I can’t figure out how to move it over there or change the price from the ridiculous $22 down to something more managable for a plain white T. So…yeah. You spelled changey as changy on the T-shirt. Can we get a ruling on the proper spelling of the word? ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/25 "2010-04-01T15:09:54Z")
> [@kittenblue](#): > > You spelled changey as changy on the T-shirt. Can we get a ruling on the proper spelling of the word? Yeah, I wasn’t sure about that. I’m thinking of moving it back to “changey.” Can you even read what’s on the back? I don’t think it’s possible to do that on the preview either. I’m getting help through Cafe Press’s forums (maybe). I like my shirt but frankly that whole site’s making me frustrated and crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/26 "2010-04-01T15:11:42Z")
> [@kittenblue](#): > > You spelled changey as changy on the T-shirt. Can we get a ruling on the proper spelling of the word? Anyone got a hi-def shot of Palin’s hand while she was speaking? That should clear it up. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/27 "2010-04-01T15:13:27Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > Can you even read what’s on the back? Not from the site, no. ---
**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/28 "2010-04-01T15:22:45Z")
\>\>Palin/whoever - 2012\<\< \>\>No Hope. No Change\<\< (I gotta get me that bumper sticker for my Subaru for when I go to the States) ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/29 "2010-04-01T15:47:18Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > Fixing the economic mess Bush left us will take time, and passing health care is a part of that long-range plan, so it’s pretty smart of Obama NOT to have made short range promises to “fix” the economy before tackling health-care, don’t you agree, Smashy? Was it politically smart not to promise to fix the economy first, wrt specific metrics? Yeah, probably. I don’t remember many politicians doing that, though, so I’m not sure how brilliant your guy is. Was it what the country wanted him to do? No, as I’ve pointed out in countless threads. Is ‘fixing’ healthcare the answer, or even _an_ answer, to our long term economic success? Not the way it was done. We certainly don’t need another healthcare thread on this board so I won’t run down all the reasons here, and threadjack your post. A reasonably comprehensive summary can be found [here](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/25/AR2010032502406.html) and [here](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/28/AR2010032802353.html) if you’re interested. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/30 "2010-04-01T15:52:32Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > …Can you even read what’s on the back?.. I can’t. Could you post the text here? You might want to add the Obama “O” logo to the back, too, unless that would make it too expensive. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/31 "2010-04-01T15:52:54Z")
My response. “How’s that “Hope we never change and we continue being the good ole USA” thingy going for you?” Then I’d spit in her eye. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/32 "2010-04-01T15:59:08Z")
Hows that dopey-derangey thing working out for you? ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/33 "2010-04-01T16:00:50Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > . I don’t remember many politicians doing that, though, so I’m not sure how brilliant your guy is. But that’s what you suggested he do, isn’t it? "I think most of America wishes he focused his hope and change efforts on the economy, not healthcare, for this past year. " Aren’t you suggesting there that he focus like a laser beam on doing something that’s practically impossible to do inside of a year by anyone, and to state specific metrics by which his success or failure can be quantified? And failing to do that is what the American public is dissatisfied with? “Barack, I think what you should do is what a sensible Republican would have done, if we’d only been able to elect one, and turn your back on the silly voters who supported your health-care agenda.” Gee, thanks for the well-intended advice. ---
**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/34 "2010-04-01T16:05:59Z")
Just casually respond “Pretty good, how about you?” Whatever their response, nod sadly and say “I’m so sorry” then walk away. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/35 "2010-04-01T16:08:40Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > I can’t. Could you post the text here? > > You might want to add the Obama “O” logo to the back, too, unless that would make it too expensive. Here’s the small text on the back: - Health Care Reform - Forclosure prevention fund - Established a credit card bill of rights - Closed “doughnut hole” in Medicare - Increased funding for community based prevention programs - A new dog in the White House - Directed military leaders to end war in Iraq - Health. Care. Reform. - Increased funding for local emergency planning - Granted Americans unrestricted rights to visit family in Cuba - Appointed a special adviser to the president on violence against women - Required insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions - Expanded eligibility for State Children’s Health Insurance Fund - Recruited math and science degree graduates to the teaching profession - Made U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional on anti-terror efforts - Reformed mandatory minimum sentences - Increased funding for the Land and Water Conservation Fund - Weatherized 1 million homes - Seriously. Have I mentioned Health Care Reform? It’s friggin’ amazing - Released presidential records - Increased Pell grants - Increased funding to the NEA - Added a space shuttle flight - Enhanced Earth mapping - Rebuilt New Orleans schools And then in large blue font at the bottom: Better than I possibly Could have Imagined Source: [www.Politifact.com](http://www.Politifact.com) (seriously. I have a Works Cited on a t-shirt) ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/36 "2010-04-01T16:18:45Z")
What about the nuclear arms limitation treaty with Russia? That ought to count too! ---
**Author:** ![NOLA\_Cajun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ea666f/32.png) [@NOLA\_Cajun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NOLA_Cajun)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/37 "2010-04-01T16:20:41Z")
Those crazy kids on capitol hill! I just absolutley LOVE Obama, Pelosi and Reid. They’ve all worked so hard! I really think they deserve a vacation (permanant)! What with [del]spending us into oblivion[/del] creating so much hope, [del]losing[/del] creating so many jobs and bringing about so much [del]socialism[/del] change, they must be exhausted! Watch out you Europeans, we’ll be just like you soon! ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/38 "2010-04-01T16:21:37Z")
Maybe tshirts that simply say; Love the change. Thanks for the hope. Oh, and the better world! ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Smashy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mr\_Smashy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Smashy)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/39 "2010-04-01T16:23:15Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > But that’s what you suggested he do, isn’t it? "I think most of America wishes he focused his hope and change efforts on the economy, not healthcare, for this past year. " Aren’t you suggesting there that he focus like a laser beam on doing something that’s practically impossible to do inside of a year by anyone, and to state specific metrics by which his success or failure can be quantified? And failing to do that is what the American public is dissatisfied with? “Barack, I think what you should do is what a sensible Republican would have done, if we’d only been able to elect one, and turn your back on the silly voters who supported your health-care agenda.” Gee, thanks for the well-intended advice. I think you misunderstand what I said, or I didn’t say it clearly, whatever. I was referring to Obama not pledging to bring unemployment back down to 5%. That was smart, not putting a stake in the ground like that. I’m suggesting that the public just saw him burn a year on healthcare, when every survey suggests that the economy was what should have been on his mind. As for ‘turning his back on the voters who supported his health-care agenda’, go re-read what the country [really](http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/) elected him to do. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/40 "2010-04-01T16:33:46Z")
> [@Mr\_Smashy](#): > > read what the country [really](http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/) elected him to do. Nah, to get that, you’d have to poll people who _actually_ voted; for Obama. What you’ve got there is a pre-election wish-list which even includes the opinions of the losers that voted for McCain/Palin. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563.md?page=3)