# "How's that hopey-changey thing workin' out for ya?" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 1, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563 "2010-04-01T12:18:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/121 "2011-10-26T18:31:58Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > The only thing remotely scary about The Palinatrix is that she might peak and fade before she’s done sufficient damage to the Republicans. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/122 "2011-10-26T18:48:51Z")
Most recently she has a book and a movie out. What, you didn’t hear? Gee, no shit, how did you miss it? The movie cratered in awesome fashion, \*Plan 9 from Outer Space \*had a bigger box office. The book went straight to the remainder tables about a week after it hit the bookstores. 90% off, buy two, get one free, buy three, full refund plus five dollars. Prediction: there will be no more books or movies, unless they are financed by people who don’t give a shit about pissing their money away. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/123 "2011-10-26T20:39:43Z")
Here’s a good [review of her Movie](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/07/sarah-palin-movie-debuts-to-empty-theater-in-orange-county/241983/) The Undefeated. In a nutshell, reporter goes to theatre to see the movie and possibly interview fans of Sarah’s. The movie is playing in a very conservative area, so he has high hopes. He’s the only one in the theater. No wait that’s not true. Some folks come in by accident, but leave 20 minutes later. Another couple comes in to make out. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/124 "2011-10-26T22:35:21Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I wouldn’t be true to the spirit of the Pit if I didn’t offer the obligatory line about what a low bar you’ve set here. > > But seriously: Palin is not smart. She’s simply not. She’s got a level of factual political awareness that would be perfectly acceptable in a barista or a sports bookie, and there would no no reason to call that barista or that bookie stupid, I grant you. But since politics is her chosen profession, it is absolutely fair to call her stupid, in the same way that the barista could be denigrated for not knowing what cafe au lait is or the bookie not understanding what “I’ll take the Redskins and three points,” means. > > And surely you’ll agree that my opinion was not reached because of my liberal views. Well, whether she is smart or not in general wasn’t the issue. What I pointed out is that she is smarter than PRR. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/125 "2011-10-26T22:40:06Z")
Back to the OP: Hate to say it, but the hopey changey thing isn’t working out well for many of us that voted for him. That’s not a nod to Palin. It’s jus’ the facts. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/126 "2011-10-26T22:41:48Z")
> [@citizenpained](#): > > back to the op: Hate to say it, but the hopey changey thing isn’t working out well for many of us that voted for him. That’s not a nod to palin. It’s jus’ the facts. and it’s all his fault he was supposed to fix it! ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/127 "2011-10-27T00:04:43Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Well, whether she is smart or not in general wasn’t the issue. What I pointed out is that she is smarter than PRR. Except that she definitely isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/128 "2011-10-27T00:16:32Z")
I have no love for SP, but I thought this was one of the, if not the, most clever thing she’s said. I would be surprised if she actually thought it up, but it’s still pretty clever, as political zingers go. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/129 "2011-10-27T14:49:25Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > Except that she definitely isn’t. Sorry, but she is. Hell, I’ve got toenail fungus that is smarter than PRR. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/130 "2011-10-27T14:57:18Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sorry, but she is. Hell, I’ve got toenail fungus that is smarter than PRR. No love lost between me and PRR, but he’s got five times the smarts you do. Which means you’d have to evolve upwards to be as smart as your own toenail fungus. Good luck with that. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/131 "2011-10-27T15:02:09Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sorry, but she is. Hell, I’ve got toenail fungus that is smarter than PRR. You seem to think this is witty, or hurtful to me, or clever or something similar, and I agree with you, **Clothy** , that I’m nothing to brag about in terms of brain-power, but the thing is that so many people have disagreed with us on this–the people who award degrees and honors at Ivy-league colleges, the people at major publishing houses who’ve chosen my books to publish, the people who’ve decided to pay me to teach in a university and then award me tenure, the people who’ve made me an editor at a University Press, etc–that it kinda takes away a little from the devastating hurt of your clever observations about my intelligence. I mean, it still KILLS me, absolutely brutalizes me, that you think as little of my intellectual firepower as I do, but I try to look at your devastation in a broader context, just so I can go on living. The more you keep holding me up as your poster-boy for intellectual impairment, in other words, the more some of these people might regard you as intellectually impaired. Objectively speaking, of course. Subjectively, and betweeen you and me, you’re right as rain here, and I’m glad we can agree on that, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/132 "2011-10-27T15:06:50Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sorry, but she is. Hell, I’ve got toenail fungus that is smarter than PRR. no u ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/133 "2011-10-27T15:09:40Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Here’s a good [review of her Movie](http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/07/sarah-palin-movie-debuts-to-empty-theater-in-orange-county/241983/) The Undefeated. What? That was a good movie! My favorite part is when Gene Hackman kicks the living shit out of her. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/134 "2011-10-27T16:02:12Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > What? That was a good movie! My favorite part is when Gene Hackman kicks the living shit out of her. I would pay to see that. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/135 "2011-10-27T16:19:29Z")
No, no, no. Its the movie with John Wayne and Rock Hudson, where Rock plays a gay Confederate calvary officer and John Wayne plays John Wayne. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/136 "2011-10-27T17:00:36Z")
And which one of them beats up Sarah Palin? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/137 "2011-10-27T17:39:45Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > You seem to think this is witty, or hurtful to me, or clever or something similar, and I agree with you, **Clothy** , that I’m nothing to brag about in terms of brain-power, but the thing is that so many people have disagreed with us on this–the people who award degrees and honors at Ivy-league colleges, the people at major publishing houses who’ve chosen my books to publish, the people who’ve decided to pay me to teach in a university and then award me tenure, the people who’ve made me an editor at a University Press, etc–that it kinda takes away a little from the devastating hurt of your clever observations about my intelligence. > > I mean, it still KILLS me, absolutely brutalizes me, that you think as little of my intellectual firepower as I do, but I try to look at your devastation in a broader context, just so I can go on living. The more you keep holding me up as your poster-boy for intellectual impairment, in other words, the more some of these people might regard you as intellectually impaired. Objectively speaking, of course. Subjectively, and betweeen you and me, you’re right as rain here, and I’m glad we can agree on that, at least. Without insults, the Humpster would mostly have blank posts. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/138 "2011-10-27T18:12:55Z")
I’m willing to risk it. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/139 "2011-10-27T20:34:37Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > . . . the people who’ve decided to pay me to teach in a university and then award me tenure . . . Of course, quite a few of us could trot out horror stories about really bad professors! (But I’m quipping: I’ve read enough of your posts, here, to form a very high opinion of your qualities as a Straight Dope micro-essayist. I just couldn’t resist the cheap shot!) (Gadz, let me tell you about my old calculus prof… Day after election day, 1980, he came in to class, smoking a cigar, and crowing over the defeat of Birch Bayh and George McGovern. In a calculus class? And in a non-smoking classroom… First time I ever walked out on a lecture! I went straight to the math department offices and reported his sorry ass! I’m taking it on faith you aren’t that kind of tenured university prof!) Trinopus (has also had some very, very good teachers!) ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2011, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563/140 "2011-10-27T22:59:18Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Sorry, but she is. Hell, I’ve got toenail fungus that is smarter than PRR. You’re such a pillock. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hows-that-hopey-changey-thing-workin-out-for-ya/534563.md?page=8)