# HP & Goblet of Fire Teaser Trailer: mermaid question **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 11, 2005, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366 "2005-05-11T07:10:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/1 "2005-05-11T07:10:25Z")
On the [teaser trailer](http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/harry_potter/thegobletoffire/large.html), does anybody know if this is the mermaid they’ll be using in the actual movie or just a proto-type? It’s really cheesy. Harry and Ron have gotten really shaggy (pointless observation). ---
**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/2 "2005-05-11T07:15:03Z")
Hermione looked good. Just another pointless observation. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/3 "2005-05-11T07:19:55Z")
> [@Stark Raven Mad](#): > > Hermione looked good. Just another pointless observation. As did a couple of the Tri Wiz participants (Cedric and Victor respectively). Still don’t know about Ralph Fiennes as Voldemort, though. ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Bruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Queen\_Bruin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Bruin)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/4 "2005-05-11T07:23:50Z")
I thought the dragon looked sufficiently neat to take attention off the cheesy mermaid. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/5 "2005-05-11T12:59:27Z")
What was so cheezy about her? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/6 "2005-05-11T15:03:51Z")
Are the actors aging faster than the characters? Will Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson look too old when the seventh film is produced? ---
**Author:** ![DeVena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dec6dc/32.png) [@DeVena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeVena)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/7 "2005-05-11T15:15:30Z")
Daniel Radcliffe was born in 1989; Rupert Grint in 1988; and Emma Watson in 1990. They’re supposed to be 17 in the 7th book. But at this rate, they’ll be in their early 20s. ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/8 "2005-05-11T15:17:23Z")
It’s hardly the first time a twenty-something has played a teenager. ---
**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/9 "2005-05-11T15:39:42Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > It’s hardly the first time a twenty-something has played a teenager. Smallville’s highschool Clark Kent, Tom Welling, is in his thirties. ---
**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/10 "2005-05-11T15:46:40Z")
> [@Dewey Finn](#): > > Are the actors aging faster than the characters? Will Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson look too old when the seventh film is produced? [Ask these guys](http://www.porkysmovies.com/pictures/porkys/group.html) ---
**Author:** ![AmericanMaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@AmericanMaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AmericanMaid)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/11 "2005-05-11T16:03:03Z")
> [@Stark Raven Mad](#): > > Smallville’s highschool Clark Kent, Tom Welling, is in his thirties. He isn’t. Cite: [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0919991/](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0919991/) ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/12 "2005-05-11T16:41:26Z")
> [@Dewey Finn](#): > > Are the actors aging faster than the characters? Will Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson look too old when the seventh film is produced? I think this has been hashed out before but they were pretty much the same age as their characters at the beginning of the series. Due to the delay in the release of the third film and the making of the fourth film they are now at least a year or more older than their characters. They also went through puberty and their rapid growth spurts at about the same times as their characters so I don’t see a problem there. I don’t see why an actor can’t play a character a year or two younger than them, as has been pointed out many actors in their late 20’s or early 30’s have played high school students. I think it would be worse for the series to replace the current actors with completely new actors that just happen to be the exact age as the characters instead of keeping the actors that the audience has watched grow up and are as interested in as the characters they play. If a few years go by between films then it might be more reasonable to replace them. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/13 "2005-05-11T16:44:41Z")
Anyone want to speculate on the release year for the final film? The books have been taking increasingly (and frustratingly) longer to come out. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/14 "2005-05-11T18:03:14Z")
Goblet of Fire was released in book form in 2000, so they’re still five years ahead. I figure 2008/2009 for the last book’s movie version. ---
**Author:** ![rockle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/73ab20/32.png) [@rockle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rockle)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/15 "2005-05-11T18:16:08Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Harry and Ron have gotten really shaggy (pointless observation). Nah, they just look like fourteen-year-old boys (i.e., very young frat rats). It’s kind of a shame that I am old enough to be Daniel Radcliffe’s mother, because he’s going to be hot when he’s finally legal, and by then I will be too old and tired to chase after him. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/16 "2005-05-11T18:33:17Z")
> [@SmackFu](#): > > Goblet of Fire was released in book form in 2000, so they’re still five years ahead. I figure 2008/2009 for the last book’s movie version. > [@Dewey Finn](#): > > Anyone want to speculate on the release year for the final film? The books have been taking increasingly (and frustratingly) longer to come out. I don’ think there will be as long a gap between _Half Blood Prince_ and (whatever the seventh one will be called) because she already knows how it’s going to turn out and supposedly wrote chunks of the ending before the first one was published. If _Goblet_ comes out in November, I would guess that _Order of the Phoenix_ will come out in Summer 2007 or thereabouts, then _Half Blood Prince_ in Christmas 2008, and finally the conclusion in about 2010 would be my totally not-in-the-know guess. What I’m wondering (btw, I’m hijacking my own thread, but feel free to do likewise as “any excuse for a Harry Potter discussion” is the rule) is this: by the time the last one is filmed the juvenile actors will be in their early 20s and probably anxious to distance themselves from the Harry Potter movies. This is often done by taking roles in arthouse films portraying heroin addicts, prostitutes, serial killers, etc., which could result in some odd juxtapositions (i.e. nude pics on the Internet, Hermione seen necking with 50 Cent at a London Goth pub, etc.). I wonder if the stars have morals clauses or “don’t do anything that conflicts with Harry Potter’s wholesome image [bashing by Fundies notwithstanding] while the series is in production” clauses in their contracts. ---
**Author:** ![Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Stark\_Raven\_Mad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stark_Raven_Mad)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/17 "2005-05-11T18:43:22Z")
> [@AmericanMaid](#): > > He isn’t. Cite: [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0919991/](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0919991/) Damn. Well, my post will be true in two years. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/18 "2005-05-11T20:07:52Z")
[hijack] Trailer… looks… so… cool… [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/19 "2005-05-11T21:48:42Z")
> [@Dewey Finn](#): > > Anyone want to speculate on the release year for the final film? The books have been taking increasingly (and frustratingly) longer to come out. I was under the impression that the delay of _Order of the Phoenix_ was due to pressures from the lawsuit filed by that woman in Pennsylvania who claimed that Rowling had stolen her work. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366/20 "2005-05-11T22:05:33Z")
> [@](#): > > What I’m wondering (btw, I’m hijacking my own thread, but feel free to do likewise as “any excuse for a Harry Potter discussion” is the rule) is this: by the time the last one is filmed the juvenile actors will be in their early 20s and probably anxious to distance themselves from the Harry Potter movies. This is often done by taking roles in arthouse films portraying heroin addicts, prostitutes, serial killers, etc., which could result in some odd juxtapositions (i.e. nude pics on the Internet, Hermione seen necking with 50 Cent at a London Goth pub, etc.). I wonder if the stars have morals clauses or “don’t do anything that conflicts with Harry Potter’s wholesome image [bashing by Fundies notwithstanding] while the series is in production” clauses in their contracts. They might also decide to just retire from showbiz, like many child stars. Certainly, if their parents are managing their money wisely, they’ll be able to afford to: I don’t know how much of the money is going to them, but each of those kids has to be a multi-millionaire by now (even if most of it is in trust, they’ll be 18 before the series ends). I like the growing-up montage at the beginning of the trailer. At first I was puzzled why Harry suddenly looked so young, but once I realized what they were doing, it was very cool to see the progression. I didn’t even realize that that was a mermaid on first viewing; I thought that it was a scene from the maze. Presumably with a bit more context and better views it’ll be more obvious that that scene is underwater. And speaking of the maze, did anyone notice that at the beginning of the maze shot, we see a very small silhouette of Harry at the bottom of the hedges? Of course, the biggest worry with this movie is how the heck it’ll manage to fit in everything important. Even the third movie had to cut ruthlessly everything not directly relevant to the story at hand: This worked fine, viewing the movie as a standalone, but most of what ties the books together and sets the stage for later installments ended up getting cut. With _Goblet of Fire_ being both longer than the previous books, and not having that setup to build on, I’m really wondering how they’re going to manage. It would be much better, I think, if they divide the later movies into a part 1/ part 2. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hp-goblet-of-fire-teaser-trailer-mermaid-question/303366.md?page=2)