# HS dance team performs stripper lap dance routine at halftime - With video **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 28, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459 "2009-01-28T22:57:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/41 "2009-01-29T05:23:55Z")
Ugh the audio quality in the linked video is **horrendous**. Warning to anyone else about to watch that: turn your volume down. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolas\_Bourbaki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecc23a/32.png) [@Nicolas\_Bourbaki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nicolas_Bourbaki)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/42 "2009-01-29T05:30:34Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Spread eagle crotch shots and bump and grind stripper moves are de rigeur for HS cheer leading teams these days? Actually . . . yeah. Only, our school’s cheerleaders actually rehearsed, so no one ever complained to the administration. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/43 "2009-01-29T05:34:33Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Societal mores _change_. The things which _you_ did as a teenager would have been absolutely scandalous a generation or two beforehand. You may **not** have done the kind of dancing that they did, but you **did** do behavior which pushed the limits of the time. That’s what being a teenager is all about. So we’re just a bunch of prudes, eh? :rolleyes: You can be sexy and cute without looking like a total tramp. The dance team when I was in high school looked more like chorus girls from the 1930s-their most risque thing was the kickline-lot of Spankies exposed, but that was it.. (And their uniforms were way cuter, too!) AND they could actually DANCE. LAP DANCES at pep rallies? Please. If that makes me an old biddy and a stick in the mud, so be it. There’s pushing limits, and then there’s being completely inappropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/44 "2009-01-29T05:42:16Z")
> [@Sonnenstrahl](#): > > No one’s asking the girls to deny their sexuality… they can do it all, and then some, in private. Be a lady in public and then a whore in the bedroom, then? Yeah, _that_ sounds like progress. :rolleyes: > [@](#): > > Though I doubt anyone’s going to ask any of those particular girls for an encore. You don’t know much about men, do you? > [@](#): > > But there’s no reason it has to be institutionalized like that. Clearly its **not** , as they got a smackdown from the school administration over it. > [@](#): > > What if a girl was uncomfortable with it, but having been chosen (signed up? I doubt they had auditions…), she couldn’t really refuse. Sure she could. She might get bounced from the team for it, or be subjected to some peer pressure, one of the things we’re supposed to be able to learn as a kid, is how to make tough choices. > [@](#): > > But I’m not from a culture of cheerleading, so I find the whole thing a little odd, to be honest. Meaning you’ve never been a cheerleader or not exposed to the concept before? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/45 "2009-01-29T05:53:23Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > So we’re just a bunch of prudes, eh? > > :rolleyes: If that’s how you want to characterize yourself. > [@](#): > > You can be sexy and cute without looking like a total tramp. In _my_ day, we thought Madonna’s outfits made her look like a total tramp (“Lucky Star” era). They’re pretty damn tame in comparison to the things commonly sported by the bubble gum set these days, and were _way_ more revealing than anything those girls were wearing. > [@](#): > > The dance team when I was in high school looked more like chorus girls from the 1930s-their most risque thing was the kickline-lot of Spankies exposed, but that was it.. (And their uniforms were way cuter, too!) AND they could actually DANCE. Ours won a national championship or two, and they occassionally raised an eyebrow with some of the things they did. (Of course, they _didn’t_ have to worry about their routines [good and bad] being plastered all over the internet for folks to gawk at.) > [@](#): > > LAP DANCES at pep rallies? Please. If that makes me an old biddy and a stick in the mud, so be it. There’s pushing limits, and then there’s being completely inappropriate. Those flappers! With their provocative skirts and short hair! And the drinking and the smoking! And some of them have been _alone_ with the young men from the town! This country is going to be destroyed by such nonsense, I tell you! ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/46 "2009-01-29T06:17:15Z")
In olden times, a glimpse of stocking, was looked upon, as something shocking… Now, heaven knows… anything goes! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/47 "2009-01-29T06:26:24Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > …LAP DANCES at pep rallies? … Just a modern version of the bake sale… they gotta do _something_ to raise money for the uniforms. Hmmm. I wonder if they do private dances in the locker rooms, maybe actually in the lockers. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/48 "2009-01-29T06:44:30Z")
If they do them in the lockers, that might explain why they can’t dance for snuff, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/49 "2009-01-29T07:15:54Z")
[QUOTE=Cat Fight] How kind of the news outlet to include a video link so we can all check out their terribly wrong behavior. [/QUOTE] “[Cachez ce sein que je ne saurais voir](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tartuffe) !” 🙂 I frankly don’t see what the big deal is. Audience participation may be pushing it, but frankly, how much more immoral or provocative compared to the pep rally concept itself ? Seriously - you’re taking the most beautiful girls in the school, dress them in sexy outfits and make them dance to entice the boys on the team to play harder. How does that _not_ have a sexual subtext ? It’s not surprising that “banging the cheerleader” is so prevalent a fantasm in porn & the American male psyche. At least those girls are being (ineptly) honest about what’s asked ot them 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/50 "2009-01-29T07:21:08Z")
I think most cheerleading routines are pretty provocative and this one looked boring at first, then the guys came in and lapdancing for guys in is a little far. The girls want to do it somewhere else, more power to them, but it’s wildly inappropriate for their coach (or whoever is in charge of cheerleaders) to encourage it and put it on public display. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/51 "2009-01-29T07:52:06Z")
> [@riker1384](#): > > Here’s what an inappropriately slutty pep-rally dance looks like when it’s done by girls who can actually dance: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGB8x46P-A](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGB8x46P-A) Neither of these seemed particularly slutty to me… but maybe that’s because I’ve worked in a number of actual strip clubs and know what actual exotic dancing looks like. This looks pretty much like the stuff my HS dance squad did back at pep rallies in the late '80s. I don’t get the big deal. They didn’t “bump and grind” ON the guys, they vaguely danced near them. I really don’t get the outrage. Honestly, nothing in that video qualified as a “lap dance” IMO. (Oh, and just for those Tucsonians in the thread: [a shout out to my old club, TD’s East!](http://gallery.opalcat.com/gallery/OpalCat2008/tds)) As for empowerment, honestly? I never felt so empowered as when I was a dancer. Those girls seriously have the guys in the palm of their hand and manipulate them like little marionettes. If the guys think otherwise, they’re deluding themselves. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/52 "2009-01-29T09:36:03Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Be a lady in public and then a whore in the bedroom, then? Yeah, _that_ sounds like progress. :rolleyes: Lucretia by daylight & Lais at night, what’s wrong with that? ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/53 "2009-01-29T10:27:50Z")
I don’t know what was more pathetic: the dancing, the dufuses in the chairs, or the idiotic screeching of whoever made the video. The whole thing is utterly embarrassing. ---
**Author:** ![Lust4Life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ecc23a/32.png) [@Lust4Life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lust4Life)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/54 "2009-01-29T14:20:33Z")
I’ve seen much hotter cheerleader routines that no one complained about. I thought it was tame and the dancing lame. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/55 "2009-01-29T16:53:24Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > I don’t know what was more pathetic: the dancing, the dufuses in the chairs, or the idiotic screeching of whoever made the video. The whole thing is utterly embarrassing. I agree with everything here. I couldn’t even tell what song was playing. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/56 "2009-01-29T16:55:06Z")
Anyone who thinks there was lapdancing in that video has never seen a lapdance. I was more bothered by the lack of skill than by anything else (I’m at work with my comp muted). ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/57 "2009-01-29T16:57:30Z")
Comp muted is exactly how you should watch that video. You can’t hear a single note of music, just a horrible screeching roaring crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Sonnenstrahl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@Sonnenstrahl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sonnenstrahl)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/58 "2009-01-29T17:00:12Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Be a lady in public and then a whore in the bedroom, then? Yeah, _that_ sounds like progress. :rolleyes: Yup, that’s why I did a lap dance at my last job interview. I felt oppressed to have to suppress my sexuality in front of my employer. > [@Tuckerfan](#): > > Meaning you’ve never been a cheerleader or not exposed to the concept before? My high school did not have cheerleaders. None of the schools in the region did. I think it’s a very American thing, though I know it has spread. It’s not normalized enough where I’m from that we don’t question it, however. I accept that it’s something that I just don’t get, though. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/59 "2009-01-29T18:27:06Z")
Anyone who calls this a lap dance has clearly never actually seen a lap dance. Here’s a hint: In a real lap dance, you get closer than three feet away from the dude in the chair. Chalk me up as another person who can’t see what all the fuss is about. I’ve seen racier cheerleading routines late night on ESPN2. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/60 "2009-01-29T22:09:31Z")
> [@Sonnenstrahl](#): > > No one’s asking the girls to deny their sexuality… they can do it all, and then some, in private. I hear there are whole Web sites for that sort of thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459.md?page=4)