# HS dance team performs stripper lap dance routine at halftime - With video **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 28, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459 "2009-01-28T22:57:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/61 "2009-01-29T23:16:04Z")
Headline: **Teens Behavior Shocks Parents!** Wow, that’s only been happening since, oh, I don’t know…THE BEGINNING OF TIME! ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/62 "2009-01-29T23:39:09Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Lucretia by daylight & Lais at night, what’s wrong with that? ISTR that Lucretia Borgia was **not** generally considered to be much of a “lady” by folks in her day. Something about poisoning her husbands. > [@Sonnenstrahl](#): > > Yup, that’s why I did a lap dance at my last job interview. I felt oppressed to have to suppress my sexuality in front of my employer. And you think that your “typical” cheerleader _does_ her routine at interviews as a way of proving her ability to “work as a team player”? Wonder how many girls who work their way through college as a stripper bother listing _that_ on their resume when they go to apply for a job? If a gal can spend 4 years stripping and pull down a 3.5 (or better GPA), while working however many hours a week as a stripper, do you think that the employer is going to consider _that_ as a “positive” on her resume? :dubious: They see “stripper” on her resume, and its going into the round filing cabinet in most cases. We’ve had several threads here warning people that showing a _bottle of alcohol_ on their freakin’ MySpace or facebook page is enough to get them **excluded** from a job. Nevermind that what someone does **off the clock** should be of _little_ concern to an employer. (There _are_ exceptions to this, of course, but getting drunk with a few friends, without a resulting DUI, isn’t one of them, IMHO.) > [@](#): > > My high school did not have cheerleaders. None of the schools in the region did. I think it’s a very American thing, though I know it has spread. It’s not normalized enough where I’m from that we don’t question it, however. I accept that it’s something that I just don’t get, though. It the States, cheerleaders are an _expected_ item at most sporting events. On game days, its traditional for the cheerleaders to wear their uniform at school. Google can give you an idea of what these uniforms typically look like (not a good idea to do this from a work computer, BTW). My school had a fairly strict dresscode for the era, but the cheerleaders were allowed to strut around in their skimpy little outfits, even though a girl wearing a **non** -cheerleading outfit that was just (or even slightly less) revealing, would get you suspended. Clearly, the attitudes _dictate_ that its **okay** for cheerleaders to put on a more provocative display, than **non** -cheerleaders. The girls in the video were practically **fully clothed** , and I have to wonder if **boys** who were fully clothed who did a “Chippendale” routine would be subjected to the same harsh comments as these girls. Of course, for **boys** , being able to “dance” is often considered a sign that one is gay. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/63 "2009-01-29T23:43:54Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Spread eagle crotch shots and bump and grind stripper moves are de rigeur for HS cheer leading teams these days? Yes. And you should see how the kids dance at school dances, too- now THAT is horrifying. The funny thing is that I’m 23- I go to clubs with my friends and dance like a hoe and, hell, I thought I danced like a hoe when I was in high school not all that long ago. But yeah, I am a prude based on what I see. > [@riker1384](#): > > Here’s what an inappropriately slutty pep-rally dance looks like when it’s done by girls who can actually dance: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGB8x46P-A](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGB8x46P-A) “can actually dance” in the sense that they are just together and hitting the moves right, right? Because that just looks like a bunch of uptight suburban girls trying to do some provocative hip hop dancing and, while technically correct, they seem to be missing the. . . spirit/soul/whatever. Of course, I’ve never been a big fan of the typical robotic cheer dancing anyway, so maybe that’s it. [Compare that second cheer video of “good” dancing to this (which actually isn’t the best I’ve seen, just an easy Youtube search).](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eYi6OGka0Y&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![pretend\_my\_name\_is\_witty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@pretend\_my\_name\_is\_witty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pretend_my_name_is_witty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/64 "2009-01-30T00:09:44Z")
And from [this side of the pond](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7859239.stm)… I definitely went to the wrong college. ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/65 "2009-01-30T00:11:00Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > My school had a fairly strict dresscode for the era, but the cheerleaders were allowed to strut around in their skimpy little outfits, even though a girl wearing a **non** -cheerleading outfit that was just (or even slightly less) revealing, would get you suspended. Clearly, the attitudes _dictate_ that its **okay** for cheerleaders to put on a more provocative display, than **non** -cheerleaders. Quite right. I remember when my kids were in middle school, and the dress code specified how short skirts (worn to school) could be. Of course, all the cheerleader’s outfits were shorter than that. They were also allowed bare midriffs, which was not allowed in the general population. This thread reminded me of an incident which happened when my daughter was in high school. A female student, who was a member of the dance team IIRC, was disciplined by the school for performing a ‘sexy dance’ as part of a skit titled “Hot Sexy Teacher”. This girl’s mom related the story to me. The mom and daughter went in front of the school board to appeal the disciplinary action. Apparently the girl had done a move called a ‘hip thrust’ twice in the routine. The school actually had a list of ‘forbidden’ moves which the dance team/cheerleading squad could not use in their routines. The board ruled that this girl had broken the rules by performing a ‘forbidden’ move (twice) and that she should have known better since she was on the dance team. ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/66 "2009-01-30T00:35:04Z")
> [@Sonnenstrahl](#): > > But I’m not from a culture of cheerleading, so I find the whole thing a little odd, to be honest. I’m from the southern U.S., which is big football country, and I still don’t quite understand it. So I started a new [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=504239) asking about it. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/67 "2009-01-30T00:59:16Z")
I’ve seen worse, quite frankly. I bet if it didn’t get posted on YouTube there wouldn’t have been a kerfuffle and the dismissal of the advisor and the disbanding of the team. I was more embarrassed at how badly the girls danced more than anything. ---
**Author:** ![beanpod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9adbd/32.png) [@beanpod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beanpod)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/68 "2009-01-30T02:03:33Z")
This is the biggest load of nothing I’ve heard people complaining about in a while. So it’s ok for teenage girls to wear tiny shorts or skorts and bend over, shake their asses, and squat/split in front of the entire school body, but it’s not ok for them to do it two feet away from a boy sitting in a chair? I disagree that this is inappropriate behavior at a pep rally. Except for the girl adjusting her junk during the routine. Honey, if you’re gonna act vaguely suggestive and shock the old people, make it entertaining at least. I also hardly see this as a step back in women’s rights. 1) because it’s just not that important and 2) because _the ability to do things like this is actually liberating_ for some young women. They can choose to do routines like this without a big mean scary coach pressuring them into it and destroying their innocent sensibilities. I would put money on all the girls wanting to do the routine and the coach just caving or not paying attention to a damn thing. (Now, that’s a decent reason for firing a coach, if they can’t maintain authority, or if they’re not involved enough to realize, “Hey, this routine may piss people off…uh, girls, let’s fix this and do it this way…” then they’re obviously not doing their job.) As someone else mentioned, the entire pep rally concept could be seen as reinforcing a primal sexual hierarchy. _All of high school_ could be seen as reinforcing a primal sexual hierarchy. Big deal. Teenagers push boundaries (News at 11!) because they’re as clever and curious as they’ve ever been, and suddenly: OMGWTFSEX!!1!! They’ll learn to be self aware, and about subtlety, and about self esteem and empowerment. Personally, I don’t think it’s possible to learn about that _without_ pushing boundaries. Also, the routine sucked. The cheerleaders at my high school did some suggestive routines, but they actually threw in, y’know, challenging athletics in there, like cartwheels or pyramids or handstands. ---
**Author:** ![Rosie\_is\_Tired](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@Rosie\_is\_Tired](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rosie_is_Tired)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/69 "2009-01-30T03:06:35Z")
Seriously, yall have never been to my high school if you think that was even remotely slutty. Our cheerleaders never danced like that, as our cheerleaders were the rejects from majorettes/color guard, who typically were sluttier than anything in that video. Also, all of our dance/cheerleader teams were primarily self-led, so it is possible that there was no coach oversight. ---
**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/70 "2009-01-30T03:44:04Z")
I find myself thinking of my junior high assistant principal, who banned the cheerleaders and pep squad from doing the “funky chicken” cheer. It went, IIRC, like this: How funky is your chicken How funky is your chicken How loose is your goose How loose is your goose So come on everybody So come on everybody And shake your caboose And shake your caboose. It was the shaking of the caboose he objected to, arguing that it was inappropriate for junior high school girls to shake their cabooses in public. It wasn’t even like we were any good at shaking our cabooses, the move came right out of the chicken dance song. Poor old guy would have keeled over in shock at the moves the average cheerleader does these days. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/71 "2009-01-30T06:06:00Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > The girls in the video were practically **fully clothed** , and I have to wonder if **boys** who were fully clothed who did a “Chippendale” routine would be subjected to the same harsh comments as these girls. Of course, for **boys** , being able to “dance” is often considered a sign that one is gay. ::Shudder:: You mean…the…[Chippendiddys](http://thumbnails.putfile.com/images/8/12107162496605403357.jpg)? ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/72 "2009-01-30T06:07:46Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > ::Shudder:: You mean…the…[Chippendiddys](http://thumbnails.putfile.com/images/8/12107162496605403357.jpg)? I am sooooo **not** clicking that link, so I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/73 "2009-01-30T06:21:21Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > ::Shudder:: You mean…the…[Chippendiddys](http://thumbnails.putfile.com/images/8/12107162496605403357.jpg)? Nope… they mean… [chippendales](http://alterknacker.supernature-forum.de/chippendales_3.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/74 "2009-01-30T07:49:26Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > I don’t really think it was that risque, but there sure was plenty of bad ‘dancing’ to go around. Seriously, had those girls ever had any training or rehearsing done in their entire lives? :eek: Yes really, it was like Cabaret \*without \*the sex… in the verses of Joaquín Sabina “like a Belgian dancing flamenco.” The majority of them looked like they knew in their brain but not in their hips what the moves were supposed to be about. And each move was completely disconnected from the rest. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/75 "2009-02-05T22:52:13Z")
> [@Tuckerfan](#): > > ISTR that Lucretia Borgia was **not** generally considered to be much of a “lady” by folks in her day. Something about poisoning her husbands. Wrong [Lucretia,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucretia) & I was referencing a poem by Martial. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/76 "2009-02-05T22:54:04Z")
> [@Todderbob](#): > > Nope… they mean… [chippendales](http://alterknacker.supernature-forum.de/chippendales_3.jpg). Well, the chippendiddys would be the equivalent of young high school girls dancing in an “inappropriate” manner. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/77 "2009-02-05T23:33:23Z")
When I was in high school, the principal would have barred all the exits and set fire to the gym. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/78 "2009-02-06T00:00:33Z")
> [@Alice\_The\_Goon](#): > > Teenage girls bumping and grinding for the enjoyment of teenage boys on school grounds is _not_ harmless. Except that it’s not for the enjoyment of teenage boys. It’s for the enjoyment of the audience, which includes teachers, parents, and whoever else. The big joke is that grownups are choreographing and directing this overtly sexual dance (how successful it was is maybe questionable, but its intent is not), and grownups are watching this. Ask any of the men afterwards, maybe the ones sitting in the front row if it got them horny. See what kind of uncomfortable or upset responses you might get. That’s what the issue is. Grownups posing teens as sexual objects in front of other grownups questions all sorts of cultural standards. I’m not saying that it’s wrong. I am saying that that’s really barely unspoken subject of debate. Not that girls are waggling their bits around, but that they’re doing it at older men in a school-sanctioned event, and for what purpose? It’s certainly a fine line; I work in high school theater, and I’ve definitely put on some shows where we’ve had suggestive clothing and/or behavior. We are constantly at the whims of administration, the board, parents and students as to what shows we can do and what is and is not acceptable. It’s my (and the other adult faculty’s) job to make sure that we don’t step too far out of what our community expects of us, or we could loose our jobs. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2009, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459/79 "2009-02-06T04:02:07Z")
**Eonwe** , I wouldn’t exactly call that “choreographed.” (And I mean that as in, “they couldn’t dance”, not as in how suggestive it was) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-dance-team-performs-stripper-lap-dance-routine-at-halftime-with-video/483459.md?page=3)