# HS student bullied for starring in XXX gay porn video. Principal suspends him as a disturbance **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2014, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501 "2014-01-23T04:47:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/21 "2014-01-23T18:23:24Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Would people’s reactions be different than what happened in the school situation. Would your reaction be different if he was being kicked out of school because he was Christian? Atheist? Because he ate meat? Because he yodeled? Different situations will have different reactions! **Amazing!** ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/22 "2014-01-23T18:47:40Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > I do not understand your apparent disdain about the need to stop school bullying. > Or am I being obtuse and not getting an inside joke or something? Obtuse only if you don’t live in North America. School bullying is the the _cause celebre_ right now. Asking for us to start focusing on it is to ignore how incredibly highlighted it is already. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/23 "2014-01-23T18:55:01Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally Posted by Smapti View Post > If he’s 18, then it isn’t the school’s role to tell him what jobs he can or can’t have when he’s not at school. It also isn’t any of the school’s business if he’s under 18. That’s what parents are for. Schools need to stop thinking they have any say in what happens to anyone during non-school hours on non -school property. The school is a place to go for your classes, it is not a parent or guardian. ---
**Author:** ![Bozuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/edb3f5/32.png) [@Bozuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bozuit)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2014, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/24 "2014-01-23T19:35:25Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > What if Noel worked at a grocery store during the day? And on the smoke break outside the store, other co-workers started criticizing Noel for doing gay porn on the weekends and evenings. Noel took offense to it and yelling ensued and customers complained. The store manager upon learning of the events decided to fire Noel. > > Would people’s reactions be different than what happened in the school situation. A place of work, especially one that involves interaction and good relations with the public, needs a much higher standard of behaviour than a school. Employees also have a completely different relationship with their employers than students have with school staff. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/25 "2014-01-24T20:26:46Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > It also isn’t any of the school’s business if he’s under 18. That’s what parents are for. Schools need to stop thinking they have any say in what happens to anyone during non-school hours on non -school property. The school is a place to go for your classes, it is not a parent or guardian. It’s an increasingly unpopular stance, but I agree. Not only is it not the place of a school to provide a bully free environment, it’s impossible. Bullying has been around since the dawn of time and will continue until all humans are dead (Ok, maybe all but one. It’s difficult to bully oneself). Back in the day, schools handled/escalated most cases of bullying like this: 1. see if kids can work it out amongst themselves, intervene if necessary 2. teacher scolds bully, perhaps administers in class punishment 3. bully sent to principle to be further scolded or punished at the principle’s discretion 4. parent(s)/guardian(s) of all involved are notified and expected to work it out between them from that point forward 5. any further incidents at school result in a call to a parent to pick the instigator up, possible suspension/expulsion 6. parents of victim take legal action against parents of instigator as appropriate Notice, if the bully did not straighten up after a couple of warnings/punishments, the school handed the matter over to the parents to be resolved. Parents (or guardians) were expected to control their own kids. The job of a school is to educate, period. Having schools take on responsibilities traditionally assigned to parents will more often than not result in an institution that does neither well. Rant over. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/26 "2014-01-24T20:37:49Z")
Which of his classmates outed himself as a watcher of gay porn? I guess [SeanCody.com](http://SeanCody.com) is very popular with the kids who are too self-hating and afraid to admit to being gay, or at least excited by gay images. Sadder and sadder. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/27 "2014-01-24T20:51:20Z")
Going out on a limb here but, a gay student? SeanCody is popular with everyone who is into that sort of athletic guy next door look. It’s one of the most popular gay porn sites. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/28 "2014-01-24T20:57:39Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > It also isn’t any of the school’s business if he’s under 18. I believe in some states at least teachers are mandatory reporters. If he were making porn and is under the age of consent, then it is a matter of statutory rape, not freedom of speech. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![iamthewalrus\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/258eb7/32.png) [@iamthewalrus\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamthewalrus_3)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/29 "2014-01-24T22:08:01Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Which of his classmates outed himself as a watcher of gay porn? Probably none of them. Someone finds it, sets up a free email address or a fake facebook page and bulk-messages a bunch of people in the school. And it spreads like wildfire. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/30 "2014-01-24T22:11:58Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I believe in some states at least teachers are mandatory reporters. If he were making porn and is under the age of consent, then it is a matter of statutory rape, not freedom of speech. > > Regards, > Shodan Sure. But you don’t get kicked out of school if you’re a victim. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/31 "2014-01-24T22:32:05Z")
The story in the OP certainly makes it appear that you might. If the story is true and complete as presented, which we don’t know. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Staggerlee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/staggerlee/32/3134_2.png) [@Staggerlee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Staggerlee)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/32 "2014-01-24T23:46:12Z")
Of course homophobic bullying should be punished, and of course it’s the school overseers’ responsibility to advise a student that a career/hobby of porn is inherently problematic , I’d think. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/33 "2014-01-24T23:49:25Z")
> [@Gagundathar](#): > > One wonders how this would have been different if the 18-year-old had been female. > Or if ‘Noel’ were heterosexual. If that was the case the suspension would never have made the news or pinged the ire of the internet outrage machine. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/34 "2014-01-25T17:00:12Z")
I hate to say it, but the kid asked for this by agreeing to star in a gay porn as an 18-year-old still in high school. He shouldn’t be suspended, but he can’t claim to not have suspected this would happen. Over-reaction by the principal. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/35 "2014-01-25T17:27:16Z")
Probably the only reason he’s back in school is because of the blizzard of legal papers with long rows of zeros after the dollar sign and first three numbers. ---
**Author:** ![Habeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@Habeed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habeed)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/36 "2014-01-25T19:50:01Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > I hate to say it, but the kid asked for this by agreeing to star in a gay porn as an 18-year-old still in high school. He shouldn’t be suspended, but he can’t claim to not have suspected this would happen. Over-reaction by the principal. “He was asking for it on account of being black”. Before you say that gay porn is different, keep in mind that it probably pays better than any other job the kid can get part time at his age. And, his family needs the money . ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/37 "2014-01-25T21:34:04Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > “He was asking for it on account of being black”. Before you say that gay porn is different, keep in mind that it probably pays better than any other job the kid can get part time at his age. And, his family needs the money . So would being a male escort which is legal in some areas. Being a hard core porn actor is not the same as being black or gay. There’s a level of common sense required in life and for this kid to decide that hardcore porn as a side job and being a high school student went together like peanut butter and chocolate was an extraordinarily stupid thing to do. He’s forcing the principal to react to a situation his idiotic decision has created. The fact he has right to do it doesn’t mean it wasn’t a monumentally stupid decision. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/38 "2014-01-25T21:45:18Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > And, his family needs the money . To the point where they are willing to have their children prostitute themselves? No family needs money that much. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/39 "2014-01-25T22:28:49Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > To the point where they are willing to have their children prostitute themselves? No family needs money that much. > > Regards, > Shodan Please don’t equate an 18 year old adult choosing freely to do pornography to earn money he can share with his family to prostitution. Because [parents sending their kids into virtual prostitution](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25729140) is a real thing, and it’s horrible and shouldn’t be compared to what this guy did. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/40 "2014-01-25T23:34:20Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > “He was asking for it on account of being black”. Before you say that gay porn is different, keep in mind that it probably pays better than any other job the kid can get part time at his age. And, his family needs the money . It is different. The kid chose to star in a gay porn as an 18 year-old still in high school. Being black is not a choice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501.md?page=3)