# HS student bullied for starring in XXX gay porn video. Principal suspends him as a disturbance **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 23, 2014, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501 "2014-01-23T04:47:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2014, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/41 "2014-01-25T23:40:13Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Please don’t equate an 18 year old adult choosing freely to do pornography to earn money he can share with his family to prostitution. > > Because [parents sending their kids into virtual prostitution](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25729140) is a real thing, and it’s horrible and shouldn’t be compared to what this guy did. You know, I can’t imagine thinking well of any parent who accepted money their kid earned staring in porn. It’s not quite whoring your kid out, but saying “Hey, junior volunteered” would not be enough to make it okay. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/42 "2014-01-26T00:43:51Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > You know, I can’t imagine thinking well of any parent who accepted money their kid earned staring in porn. It’s not quite whoring your kid out, but saying “Hey, junior volunteered” would not be enough to make it okay. What if the option were to take the porn money offered by your eighteen year old kid, or let your thirteen year old kid go to bed hungry? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/43 "2014-01-26T00:48:34Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > What if the option were to take the porn money offered by your eighteen year old kid, or let your thirteen year old kid go to bed hungry? What if their 18-year-old daughter got some money from turning tricks, which is really no different than what this boy did? ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/44 "2014-01-26T01:20:55Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > What if the option were to take the porn money offered by your eighteen year old kid, or let your thirteen year old kid go to bed hungry? I think I’d rather my 18-year old get a job at the local hot dog stand. In other times and other places, I can see having no other options. But today? In Miami? I’ve known any number of teens who had to get jobs to help pay family bills. There are lots of jobs available that don’t involve porn. I mean if my adult son wanted to be a porn star, that would be his business. But I wouldn’t want to have any lingering doubts that he was doing it _against his will_ out of a sense of obligation to me. ---
**Author:** ![Habeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@Habeed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habeed)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/45 "2014-01-26T02:32:53Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > It is different. The kid chose to star in a gay porn as an 18 year-old still in high school. > > Being black is not a choice. If you need the money badly enough, it’s not much of a choice. That’s my point. ---
**Author:** ![RichieBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b5e925/32.png) [@RichieBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RichieBoy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/46 "2014-01-26T04:39:15Z")
It’s simple, the Principal who has no Balls simply took the easy way out. Instead of standing up to the bullies he chose to punish the victim. He also threaten to punish any of the students who will support the victim to make himself look tough. It’s always easy to look tough when you are picking on someone who is too weak to fight back! ---
**Author:** ![Karrius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@Karrius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karrius)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/47 "2014-01-26T05:28:59Z")
It’s amazing all the “Well he deserved it” comments. Well, the bullies deserve to be kicked out of school - they should have seen it coming for being jerks. The principal deserves to be fired and starve to death - he should have seen it coming for not being able to do his job right! Wait, no, I’m sorry. Those people _actually made wrong, stupid decisions that hurt others_. So it’s a terrible metaphor. It’s so amazingly easy to hide any sort of bigotry behind “they deserved it”. Maybe people can try some argument that isn’t completely overplayed and trite. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/48 "2014-01-26T06:42:59Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > It’s amazing all the “Well he deserved it” comments. Well, the bullies deserve to be kicked out of school - they should have seen it coming for being jerks. The principal deserves to be fired and starve to death - he should have seen it coming for not being able to do his job right! > > Wait, no, I’m sorry. Those people _actually made wrong, stupid decisions that hurt others_. So it’s a terrible metaphor. > > It’s so amazingly easy to hide any sort of bigotry behind “they deserved it”. Maybe people can try some argument that isn’t completely overplayed and trite. Please identify the 'bigotry" you are referencing in his context. I don’t think we are talking so much about the fact that he is gay, but rather than he is a hardcore porn star as the specific reason he was being harassed. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/49 "2014-01-26T14:22:02Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > Please don’t equate an 18 year old adult choosing freely to do pornography to earn money he can share with his family to prostitution. There is no difference. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/50 "2014-01-26T14:31:47Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > I think I’d rather my 18-year old get a job at the local hot dog stand. I think the dude’s current employer could probably use your hot dog stand idea. Win-win? ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/51 "2014-01-26T14:37:18Z")
Dumb kid, dumb parents, he’s exploited his own sexuality for money now he’s bumming because kids want to socially ostracize him, get over it, move on, get your momma to homeschool you . IIRC Teachers can’t strip after school hours or put their time in a nevada bordello on their resume’ . Stands to reason, neither should students be able to pursue employment in the sex industry, ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/52 "2014-01-26T14:50:04Z")
> [@chela](#): > > IIRC Teachers can’t strip after school hours or put their time in a nevada bordello on their resume’ . Stands to reason, neither should students be able to pursue employment in the sex industry, It only stands to reason if you see education and teaching jobs as things to which people are equally entitled. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/53 "2014-01-26T14:55:43Z")
Those seeking education either in a public or private setting still have to abide by the code of conduct. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/54 "2014-01-26T15:24:47Z")
Does the code of conduct apply to activities outside school? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/55 "2014-01-26T15:38:36Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > (it _ **would** _ be a different story in the case of a faculty member/district employee). This is where I disagree. Teachers should have the same freedoms that students have. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/56 "2014-01-26T15:43:14Z")
Including the freedom to date students? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/57 "2014-01-26T16:34:19Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Including the freedom to date students? Do students have the freedom to date teachers? ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/58 "2014-01-27T05:43:36Z")
> [@Stringbean](#): > > Being black is not a choice. Ha! [http://www.landoverbaptist.org/exnegro/ex-NegroAdFINAL.pdf](http://www.landoverbaptist.org/exnegro/ex-NegroAdFINAL.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Why\_Bother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e19adc/32.png) [@Doctor\_Why\_Bother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Why_Bother)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/59 "2014-01-27T08:09:29Z")
> [@Karrius](#): > > It’s amazing all the “Well he deserved it” comments. Well, the bullies deserve to be kicked out of school - they should have seen it coming for being jerks. The principal deserves to be fired and starve to death - he should have seen it coming for not being able to do his job right! > > Wait, no, I’m sorry. Those people actually made wrong, stupid decisions that hurt others. So it’s a terrible metaphor. > > It’s so amazingly easy to hide any sort of bigotry behind “they deserved it”. Maybe people can try some argument that isn’t completely overplayed and trite. Look, the kid didn’t deserve to be bullied, he shouldn’t have been suspended, and the principle definitely should have gone after the bullies instead, but at the same time he was naive in the extreme if he didn’t think there’d be some sort of reaction if his little side project were discovered. There’s a difference between responsibility and guilt, and while he’s not guilty of anything, he does bear a little responsibility for his own suspension. It’s a bit like if I decided to walk through a slum or a shanty town covered in bling. I have every moral and legal right to do that and absolutely no-one has the right to stop me, and if I’m beaten or robbed the guilt should be placed squarely on the shoulders of the perpetrators. But at the same time I should have known better. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2014, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501/60 "2014-01-27T15:18:59Z")
If he violated a rule in the student handbook, and it’s possible he did, then he bears responsibility for his suspension. Otherwise, yes, he is utterly blameless. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hs-student-bullied-for-starring-in-xxx-gay-porn-video-principal-suspends-him-as-a-disturbance/679501.md?page=2)